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  • ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, humidity sucks for blued guns.  I have the same issue with a Carcano I inherited.  What are you using for gun oil?

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  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    ShawnOL said:
    Yeah, humidity sucks for blued guns.  I have the same issue with a Carcano I inherited.  What are you using for gun oil?
    Hoppe's Black gun oil. It is what is carried locally.
    I do still have some LSA military gun oil. LOL!
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    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Think very hard and talk to a professional appraiser before doing anything to that Beautiful rifle.
    My wife inherited several rifles from before and after the same time period.
    I cleaned and repaired most of them myself and had a pro do the work beyond my skills.  My guess is that a pro will tell you to clean it, maybe go over the metal with nothing stronger than 0000 steel wool or a scrub bud saturated in gun oil and leave the "Petina" as is.  Even though it has been modified and is a sporter, it looks to be in excellent shape and can be cherished by several generations
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  • BKDogBKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

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  • StubbleStubble Posts: 8,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Hey, you gonna eat the rest of that corndog?
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  • jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Any survivors??
  • StubbleStubble Posts: 8,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jlmarta said:
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Any survivors??
    All lost at sea....a tragedy to behold.
    Hey, you gonna eat the rest of that corndog?
  • IndustMechIndustMech Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Any survivors??
    All lost at sea....a tragedy to behold.
    Perfect storm...

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    It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.

  • peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Any survivors??
    All lost at sea....a tragedy to behold.
    Perfect storm...
    The sea was angry, my friend...
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  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    peter4jc said:
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    Stubble said:
    jlmarta said:
    BKDog said:
    0patience said:
    ShawnOL said:
    0patience said:
    It was presented to him in 1930.
    The stock was custom made, so the restoration needs to be done properly.
    It is irreplaceable, so I think anything I spend on it will be money well spent.



    Looks quite nice just as it is.  
    It has quite a bit of the blueing worn down and it's a battle to keep rust from starting, because of the high humidity and salt air here.
    I still have maybe perhaps possibly one or several or none stored away in dry-pack bags with rust prevention. Also, I use really awesome desiccants in the safe I might not have that recharge by plugging them in the wall. Of course, I would choose a different room to recharge them so the humidity doesn't just go right back into the man cave I also don't have.

    Say whut??
    Boating accident...
    Any survivors??
    All lost at sea....a tragedy to behold.
    Perfect storm...
    The sea was angry, my friend...
    When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
    Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya
    At seven p.m., a main hatchway caved in, he said
    Fellas, it's been good to know ya
  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dark the water swirls,
    as the sea nymph takes her bed
    To the creatures of the deep,
    her wanton tales are spread

    From underwater mountain tops,
    to the deepest ocean gorge
    She spreads her lusts upon drink ,
    as new horizons, she does forge

    Tempting the lonely sailing man,
    to the brink of going mad
    Her charms she shows, but a subtle glimpse,
    covered by a lily pad

    A smile to drive a mortal blind,
    she sings the oceans waves
    Let any man who tastes her lips,
    a lifetime spent in crave

    For none will own the merry maid,
    whose world does sit below
    Though most dive in to claim their prize,
    only a few will know

    A siren of the briny depths,
    and a dream to all who sail
    Their lives they roam the ramped seas,
    their destiny to fail
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  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A SAILOR'S SONG

    Oh for the breath of the briny deep,
    And the tug of the bellying sail,
    With the sea-gull's cry across the sky
    And a passing boatman's hail.
    For, be she fierce or be she gay,
    The sea is a famous friend alway.
    Ho! for the plains where the dolphins play,
    And the bend of the mast and spars,
    And a fight at night with the wild sea-sprite
    When the foam has drowned the stars.
    And, pray, what joy can the landsman feel
    Like the rise and fall of a sliding keel?
    Fair is the mead; the lawn is fair
    And the birds sing sweet on the lea;
    But the echo soft of a song aloft
    Is the strain that pleases me;
    And swish of rope and ring of chain
    Are music to men who sail the main.
    Then, if you love me, let me sail
    While a vessel dares the deep;
    For the ship 's my wife, and the breath of life
    Are the raging gales that sweep;
    And when I 'm done with calm and blast,
    A slide o'er the side, and rest at last.

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  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whew...... 🙄
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hello all,
    A total newbie question. I just started sailing again after 25 years, so please be gentle 

    I am looking to buy maybe a 38-40ft for sailing, and then to use it as a live aboard afterwards. 

    I'd rather buy one now and invest on it for retirement if it can last that long with good care.

    Any word of advice is greatly appreciated.
    Cheers
  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Bob_Luken said:
    Hello all,
    A total newbie question. I just started sailing again after 25 years, so please be gentle 

    I am looking to buy maybe a 38-40ft for sailing, and then to use it as a live aboard afterwards. 

    I'd rather buy one now and invest on it for retirement if it can last that long with good care.

    Any word of advice is greatly appreciated.
    Cheers

    Maybe ask @webmost

     Or just burn your money. :D

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  • GuitardedGuitarded Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bob_Luken said:
    Hello all,
    A total newbie question. I just started sailing again after 25 years, so please be gentle 

    I am looking to buy maybe a 38-40ft for sailing, and then to use it as a live aboard afterwards. 

    I'd rather buy one now and invest on it for retirement if it can last that long with good care.

    Any word of advice is greatly appreciated.
    Cheers
    A boat is just a hole in the water that sucks 💵. 

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  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or one you pour money down.
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  • IndustMechIndustMech Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sailing herf! Awesome! 

    I know, You're a big dog and I'm on the list.
    Let's eat, GrandMa.  /  Let's eat GrandMa.  --  Punctuation saves lives

    It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.

  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in for a Kayak herf.
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  • Trykflyr_1Trykflyr_1 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boat....Break out another thousand.
    I'm still troubled by what I did for that Klondike bar...
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You never know where anything is going around here.  


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  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    @Bob_Luken
    If it is out of the water, check the main beam and around the rudder and center board area for dry rot..
    Cracks in the hull, resin or things that make it look like it is flexing too much. 
    If it is a glassply, any cracks in the coating that are dark and you can see wood in, rot has started 
    It can be repaired, but that is an added expense

    If it's in the water, ask when the last time it was dry docked and did they have it surveyed. If so, what were the results. 
    Check what it has for a generator and check shore power connections. Make sure all safety features, engine compartment fans, fire extinguishers, bilge pumps, etc all work properly.

    I don't know much about sailboats, never really dealt with them much.
    Cruisers, yachts and fishing vessels are what I've mainly worked on.

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    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • Sleddog46Sleddog46 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought this thread was about guns! How'd did it turn into a boat site?
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  • YaksterYakster Posts: 27,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Sleddog46 said:
    I thought this thread was about guns! How'd did it turn into a boat site?
    Threadjacked on its own petard.

    An act of thread topic piracy.

    Bob, are you thinking of getting a Gunboat?



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  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    ShawnOL said:
    Yeah, humidity sucks for blued guns.  I have the same issue with a Carcano I inherited.  What are you using for gun oil?
    Light coat of quality gun oil and put it in a silicone treated gun sock.  There are all kinds of forms of desiccant.  I live in South Florida, humidity down here can be brutal and none of our old or new guns have never rusted.
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  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Diver43 said:
    ShawnOL said:
    Yeah, humidity sucks for blued guns.  I have the same issue with a Carcano I inherited.  What are you using for gun oil?
    Light coat of quality gun oil and put it in a silicone treated gun sock.  There are all kinds of forms of desiccant.  I live in South Florida, humidity down here can be brutal and none of our old or new guns have never rusted.
    So this silicone treated gun sock. Can it be put on and then the rifle put into a hard case?
    I've never seen those before.
    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
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