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Questions about setting up my new wineador

I just got a whynter wineador the big 400ct one

I have not turned it in yet.

I have wiped down the drawers with clean sponges and a fresh bottle of distilled water.

I currently have a Xikar hygrometer in there as I calibrate the one that came with it.

Along with this I have the tray that came with it used for water filled halfish way up with distilled water.

How long should I leave that in full for for it to condition? How long should it condition for?

Can I turn it on before it's done conditioning?

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  • GuitardedGuitarded AlbuquerquePosts: 4,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Plug the drain hole (if it has one), plug it in, set temp at 65, two weeks.
    Congratulations!

    Friends don't let good friends smoke cheap cigars.
  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    @Guitarded said:
    Plug the drain hole (if it has one), plug it in, set temp at 65, two weeks.
    Congratulations!

    I don't believe it has a drain hole.

    What does that look like

    Two weeks to condition it???

  • deadmandeadman Midland, NCPosts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Banksy said:

    @Guitarded said:
    Plug the drain hole (if it has one), plug it in, set temp at 65, two weeks.
    Congratulations!

    I don't believe it has a drain hole.

    What does that look like

    Two weeks to condition it???

    Drain for water to run out, if you had one you would notice a hole in the floor of it.

    Yes two weeks you may get by in one since it’s a wineador. Gotta let to wood become saturated with humidity.

  • Usaf06Usaf06 FloridaPosts: 10,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Make sure you take out the tray of water when you fill it and add bovedas. I use 69° but others use 65

    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

  • ForMudForMud Aka; Quickdraw, Clayton, DelawarePosts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Banksy said:

    Two weeks to condition it???

    Cigar storage/rest/aging takes time and patience's...But is worth doing right.

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    Do these things take a few hours to maintain temp?

    Seems to be off by 1° set to 65 showing 66 and fluctuating.

  • deadmandeadman Midland, NCPosts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Banksy said:
    Do these things take a few hours to maintain temp?

    Seems to be off by 1° set to 65 showing 66 and fluctuating.

    That’s why it needs to season for a week or two.

  • VisionVision Posts: 7,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I seasoned at around 75RH no wipe down for close to a month. I then dropped in 68RH for a few weeks until it stabilized. I pulled all Bovida packs to make sure it was good.

    I only turn it on when it’s hot. Drops to about 64RH for about an hour or so then back to normal

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    I just have the container for water in it now filled with distilled water.

    When I started I wiped down the shelves and it was at one point over 85%

    It's been sitting in there since yesterday afternoon and now is only about 69%

    Sound about right? Haven't wiped down the shelves again and really would prefer not to.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Real ManPosts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You should move it into a closet and then not open the closet door for two weeks. That's how you know you've done it right.

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  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    @VegasFrank said:
    You should move it into a closet and then not open the closet door for two weeks. That's how you know you've done it right.

    Bro this thing is huge

    I've already had to fight it a couple times getting it level. Not fun.

    This boi be chillin' right where it is for a while.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Real ManPosts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Haha. Point is to let it chill for 2 weeks without touching it. RH will go up and down as the wood soaks in the water. If the cup goes dry, refill it, but it shouldn't.

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  • TruDogTruDog Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Banksy/....ignore Franky. He likes dat ****.

  • VisionVision Posts: 7,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Banksy said:
    I just have the container for water in it now filled with distilled water.

    When I started I wiped down the shelves and it was at one point over 85%

    It's been sitting in there since yesterday afternoon and now is only about 69%

    Sound about right? Haven't wiped down the shelves again and really would prefer not to.

    I wouldn’t wipe again. I have the entire bottom blanketed in Boveda

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    @Vision said:

    @Banksy said:
    I just have the container for water in it now filled with distilled water.

    When I started I wiped down the shelves and it was at one point over 85%

    It's been sitting in there since yesterday afternoon and now is only about 69%

    Sound about right? Haven't wiped down the shelves again and really would prefer not to.

    I wouldn’t wipe again. I have the entire bottom blanketed in Boveda

    Have 2 320g packs in bound due in on Monday

  • VisionVision Posts: 7,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just looked at my original post .... typo 68 should have been 69RH... fat thumbed it. I switched over to 65 about 2 years ago for long term storage. No issues at all.

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    So I'm quite concerned

    I have this set to 63°F currently

    I have a Xikar hygrometer inside it's rather old but is reading 65

    Is it normal for the temp to be off by 2° during this seasoning process?

    I had a container filled 3/4th the way up with distilled water that came with this

    It is about half way empty now

    Been sitting in there since Friday.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Real ManPosts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bro, you gots to chill! Remember what I said before? Two weeks! If the well runs dry, refill it. Other than that, it don't matter! Is it normal for it to be off by 2%? Sure. It's normal for it to be off by 10%. It's normal for it to be off by 15%. It's normal for it to be dead on balls accurate.

    Unless you calibrated that hygrometer, you really don't know what the humidity is. Besides, 63 or 65 doesn't make much of a difference. Hell, Nick doesn't even use the hygrometer, And Nick is always right about everything!

    I'm seasoning up a humidor that a buddy gave me right now. It's sitting right next to my smoking humidor and it has a glass top. I put a container of distilled water in it on Sunday and I haven't even looked at it, and it is next to the humidor I smoke out of! Anything that happens in the first 13 and 1/2 days does not matter....

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  • Usaf06Usaf06 FloridaPosts: 10,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    Bro, you gots to chill! Remember what I said before? Two weeks! If the well runs dry, refill it. Other than that, it don't matter! Is it normal for it to be off by 2%? Sure. It's normal for it to be off by 10%. It's normal for it to be off by 15%. It's normal for it to be dead on balls accurate.

    Unless you calibrated that hygrometer, you really don't know what the humidity is. Besides, 63 or 65 doesn't make much of a difference. Hell, Nick doesn't even use the hygrometer, And Nick is always right about everything!

    I'm seasoning up a humidor that a buddy gave me right now. It's sitting right next to my smoking humidor and it has a glass top. I put a container of distilled water in it on Sunday and I haven't even looked at it, and it is next to the humidor I smoke out of! Anything that happens in the first 13 and 1/2 days does not matter....

    correct!

    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    Sweet man thanks.

    Just wanted to make sure because I'm not gonna lie

    This was a b**ch to get and took ages to get here.

    And if it's f*!ked for whatever reason I'm gonna be pissed.

    The whynters have pretty mixed reviews on Amazon for reliability so I just wanted to make sure mine wasn't jacked.

    Plus I've been hitting the ol' cigar page pretty hard recently and the need room.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Real ManPosts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You should have bought two of them!

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  • silvermousesilvermouse Cape CodPosts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most thermostats, whether in stoves, water heaters or refrigerators have a thermal offset of x-number of degrees. You don't want your thermal device kicking on and off for every 1/2° of rise or drop.

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    @VegasFrank said:
    You should have bought two of them!

    Newair CC-300H is on my radar.

    Out if stock though

    Definitely gonna need to blow money on that. Already been determined

  • peter4jcpeter4jc Milwaukee, WIPosts: 12,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Banksy said:
    Sweet man thanks.

    Just wanted to make sure because I'm not gonna lie

    This was a b**ch to get and took ages to get here.

    And if it's f*!ked for whatever reason I'm gonna be pissed.

    The whynters have pretty mixed reviews on Amazon for reliability so I just wanted to make sure mine wasn't jacked.

    Plus I've been hitting the ol' cigar page pretty hard recently and the need room.

    Sounds like you need a cigar. :-)

    "I could've had a Mi Querida!"   Nick Bardis
  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29

    @peter4jc said:

    @Banksy said:
    Sweet man thanks.

    Just wanted to make sure because I'm not gonna lie

    This was a b**ch to get and took ages to get here.

    And if it's f*!ked for whatever reason I'm gonna be pissed.

    The whynters have pretty mixed reviews on Amazon for reliability so I just wanted to make sure mine wasn't jacked.

    Plus I've been hitting the ol' cigar page pretty hard recently and the need room.

    Sounds like you need a cigar. :-)

    Absolutely. I need a No. 9 or Feral lol.

  • BanksyBanksy Posts: 29
    edited June 2020

    Okay... So two weeks later after starting the process of conditioning it's been holding at 75-76%

    I filled it with about 200 cigars and used two 320 gram 72% boveda packs today

    Doing so the humidity was like 67%

    So I added 8 60 gram 69% packs

    One hygrometer that's new reads 80%

    One I have that's an ancient Xikar reads 75

    Is it normal for the humidity to go up that high? Is that due to the moisture in the cigars I added and will level out ?

    Also all the cigars are wrapped and in bags

  • deadmandeadman Midland, NCPosts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020

    Bovedas can be off up to 2% I’ve read. Those 72 are too high and the smaller ones are absorbing the difference. I personally would that out the 72 pack for a week and see what the hydrometers read then. If they still read high I would say they’re off

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Real ManPosts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will fluctuate when you add smokes. That part is normal. You should've stayed at 67-and hoped that it dropped another 2 percent.

    If it stays high, leave the door open for an hour..

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  • Usaf06Usaf06 FloridaPosts: 10,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65-67 is perfect

    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

  • deadmandeadman Midland, NCPosts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    It will fluctuate when you add smokes. That part is normal. You should've stayed at 67-and hoped that it dropped another 2 percent.

    If it stays high, leave the door open for an hour..

    But he’s got two of the giant boveda packs set at 72%

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