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Amos_Umwhat
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Recently we have seen verdicts in 2 newsworthy cases, Rittenhouse and Arbury. I never really followed the Rittenhouse case, and the Arbury case was obviously open and shut ignorant redneck modern day lynching.
So, it bothered me that the media was trying to draw parallels. I thought Rittenhouse was in his yard defending his home, which I think he would have had every right to do.
I was wrong. I think the verdict was wrong. But, I wasn't there, or in court, so maybe 12 honest jurors came to the right conclusion. But I certainly would have felt differently if I had known more
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17 year olds, guns, and racial tension don't mix....he was a boy in a man's world that night, and 2 people paid with their lives.
He had a right to defend himself. His mistake was putting himself in a position where he needed to defend himself, IMHO. One thing that irks the living daylights outa me is that our governor called up 500 National Guardsmen to keep the peace after the Rittenhouse trial. If he would've done that following the Jacob Blake fiasco none of this would've happened. I need to not suppose I know why Gov. Evers let that mob riot last year, and maybe 500 Guardsmen would've made it worse, but letting a city burn w/o trying to stop a riot leads people to think they have a role in stopping it.
Yeah fair enough @peter4jc. My point is that there were a bunch of other "peacekeeping constitutionalists" who didn't put themselves in that spot...needing to fire a weapon at humans to defend themselves. Right about the guard, right about the governor. Botched all the way around.
Juries got it right on both counts.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
TBH, I don’t know much about the trial. But did he not cross state lines, from his home in a neighboring state, carrying a weapon, to defend himself? If I’m wrong please inform me. If I’m correct in that statement, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have had to defend himself if he stayed home no?
True ^
He lived in Antioch, a town South of the Illinois-Wisconsin border. His Dad lived in Kenosha WI, the town where all this happened. He had a job in Kenosha as well. The weapon was kept in Kenosha. He traveled <20 miles from Antioch to Kenosha. I'm pretty sure if people complied with lawful orders from police, we wouldn't have had a Billion dollars of damage last year.
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It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
There has been a ton of “if he this, or hadn’t that”.
Doesn’t matter. He was attacked and defended himself. Everything leading up to that moment is a mute point. If it’s not....
If there were no riots it would have never happened.
If the media and politicians didn’t gaslight every situation it would have never happened.
If a LEVEL 3 sex offender was not on the street running loose it never would have happened.
Maybe if the kid didn’t play Call of duty (which the prosecutors tried using ) it never would have happened.
By this reasoning, if you go to the store and get mugged you have no right to defend yourself...you didn’t need that damn Twinkie and shouldn’t have been there.
Break it down to what it is. Not what the media says it is. Not what it is made out to be by the public. A person was violently attacked. One of the attackers openly admitted that he pointed a gun with intention of using it before he was ever fired upon. The victim defended himself.
Should he have been there? Should there have been a riot? Should a pedophile have been walking free? Should gas prices be so high? Should you go buy that Twinkie? Doesn’t matter. Neither does anything leading up to a man defending his life against a violent attack.
He was stupid showing up with a gun but stupidity isn’t illegal. Defending your life isn’t illegal either. To much ignorance in the world today and not enough love and kindness. Thankful for you guys and this forum.
He did Kenosha a service. Two less scumbags walking around committing crimes. It's too bad the police weren't doing their jobs that night. Maybe arrest some rioters?
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
Lol this coming from a guy who lives down the street from the site of the Boston massacre and tea party. I bet you would have been pro-redcoat LOL!
He isn’t the hero many are making him out to be. He was a young kid exercising his rights as he saw them and ended up putting himself in a fight or flee situation. Which he did try to flee but fell. And I have absolutely no doubt that by then it was him or them. As far as I’m concerned the world is less 2 scumbags. But that’s just my 2 pennies.
Also each of those 3 guys traveled farther to get there then he did so they shouldn’t have been there. They only came for one reason and it wasn’t for a peaceful protest.
I agree that it was self defense but he unnecessarily put himself in a bad place. But so did the pieces of shït that he killed.
The worst part is how the media portrayed it. This is spot on, I'm sure most people never heard of Mr. Coffee (lol) and definitely not from lefty media.
Also, I saw a clip of some "journalists" on CNN saying it appears the verdict was correct if you go strictly by evidence with a "but... " attached to it. Excuse me, but the evidence is exactly what you go by. Period.
On a side note, I wish his parents and Grandparents had done their dam job and told him to keep his young stupid a$$ home. If it had been my kid he’d have had to kick my a$$ before he went. They should have been on trial to in my book.
As my father used to tell me when I did something stupid "Shouldn't have been there".......This applies to all there that day.