El Paso/Ohio Shootings

Hey @jd50ae What's it feel like to be so right when everyone else is so wrong? It must be a terrible burden on you.

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

webmost said:

https://youtu.be/qtvjXc0lsbo

This guy is pretty well-spoken and sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. I particularly agree with him regarding the current self-approved generation not having any guidance by their parents. 

Another aspect of this kind of shoot-to-kill behavior can almost certainly be traced back to these misfits growing up with a game controller in their hands playing any number of violent games where ‘killing’ their opponent is meaningless for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the ‘dead’ opponent doesn’t necessarily have to stay dead - depending on the game and its variables. It’s not much of a stretch to imagine some of the current batch of shooters equating their real-life victims with those game victims who aren’t really people and who don’t have to stay dead.....  Capisce??

I believe research has been done on this subject, and video games almost certainly do not play a contributing role in creating psychopathic killers. I mean, if the claim about first person shooters creating these nutjobs who go out shooting people at random has any merit whatsoever, then I would have been camping rooftops at least 15 years ago due to my obscene involvement of game play and 24 hour LAN parties at Counter Strike and Half Life. It's very clearly the psychotropic drugging of America at play, here. Just type "psychotropic drugging" into YouTube, watch and learn. I know some things appear different up there in Alaska, I have a good acquaintance up there at one of the fish canneries, he's an old timer who still believes many myths about our culture, too. But, in all honesty, I'd rather his and your perspective over main stream's any day of the week in any case.

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

Perhaps apropos of nothing, @BKDog, may I ask in what year you were born?

Exactly what in the flying pig fart does that have to do with the subject at hand? But, if you must know I was born before Reagan became President, which makes me plenty old enough to make a valid point, I assume. I remember Iran Contra, Ollie North, the secret government business model, and what food was like before they started adding high fructose corn syrup to everything. Now, on the subject itself, my point still stands that the American people are being poisoned and drugged, their minds are inundated with chemicals being prescribed, their bodies weakened by GMO garbage in their food, and the chemicals in the water is disgusting. You can travel around the country visiting Wal-Marts and just see the droopy-eyed, dribbling future of humanity, all waiting in line to get their Big Mac's and potato tasting fries. Trust me when I say this, your problem isn't video games making kids violent.

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

Perhaps apropos of nothing, @BKDog, may I ask in what year you were born?

Exactly what in the flying pig fart does that have to do with the subject at hand? But, if you must know I was born before Reagan became President, which makes me plenty old enough to make a valid point, I assume. I remember Iran Contra, Ollie North, the secret government business model, and what food was like before they started adding high fructose corn syrup to everything. Now, on the subject itself, my point still stands that the American people are being poisoned and drugged, their minds are inundated with chemicals being prescribed, their bodies weakened by GMO garbage in their food, and the chemicals in the water is disgusting. You can travel around the country visiting Wal-Marts and just see the droopy-eyed, dribbling future of humanity, all waiting in line to get their Big Mac's and potato tasting fries. Trust me when I say this, your problem isn't video games making kids violent.

Easy, big fella. You can ease the chip off your shoulder. I was merely trying to ascertain your generation before I said something that might go against your grain. 

I’m not trying to be argumentive, here, but I was under the impression that psychotropic drugs were mainly intended to calm individuals who are bi-polar, etc., not to rile them up. Drugs like Xanax, Ambien, and others have calming effects, do they not?

I'm not like you, I don't get bent out of shape over politics. No need to tell me to "calm down". This is what my face looks like, it's not one of anger or frustration:

And read up on the side effects of such drugs, and especially what happens when you should decide to STOP taking them, like when you miss a couple scheduled doses. (hint - it tends to make you violent/aggressive) But, long story short, I'm only ever razzing if I do seem to be abrasive. Except when it comes to filth. I take filth seriously. Well, wouldn't you if you had the face of a rubber ducky?

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

BKDog said:

jlmarta said:

Perhaps apropos of nothing, @BKDog, may I ask in what year you were born?

Exactly what in the flying pig fart does that have to do with the subject at hand? But, if you must know I was born before Reagan became President, which makes me plenty old enough to make a valid point, I assume. I remember Iran Contra, Ollie North, the secret government business model, and what food was like before they started adding high fructose corn syrup to everything. Now, on the subject itself, my point still stands that the American people are being poisoned and drugged, their minds are inundated with chemicals being prescribed, their bodies weakened by GMO garbage in their food, and the chemicals in the water is disgusting. You can travel around the country visiting Wal-Marts and just see the droopy-eyed, dribbling future of humanity, all waiting in line to get their Big Mac's and potato tasting fries. Trust me when I say this, your problem isn't video games making kids violent.

Easy, big fella. You can ease the chip off your shoulder. I was merely trying to ascertain your generation before I said something that might go against your grain. 

I’m not trying to be argumentive, here, but I was under the impression that psychotropic drugs were mainly intended to calm individuals who are bi-polar, etc., not to rile them up. Drugs like Xanax, Ambien, and others have calming effects, do they not?

I'm not like you, I don't get bent out of shape over politics. No need to tell me to "calm down". This is what my face looks like, it's not one of anger or frustration:

And read up on the side effects of such drugs, and especially what happens when you should decide to STOP taking them, like when you miss a couple scheduled doses. (hint - it tends to make you violent/aggressive) But, long story short, I'm only ever razzing if I do seem to be abrasive. Except when it comes to filth. I take filth seriously. Well, wouldn't you if you had the face of a rubber ducky?

Well, all I know is that my child bride is a dementia patient and her doctor gives her Lexapro at night to calm her so she can sleep. And if she has to undergo a procedure of any kind they often give her an Ativan to ease her anxiety, etc. And Ambien is a sleeping aid. 

So, if I’m reading it right, then the bulk of these shooters would seem to be over-drugged members of the self-entitled generation(s) who aren’t staying on their meds?  Well, it’s possible, I suppose. But I still think video games have to take their share of the blame. 

Not exactly. I wouldn't say they aren't all staying on their meds. Some of these active shooters may just have complications between two or more medications, and it takes some time for certain cocktails to brew, too. Then there's the period where you forget just one of anything and the whole balance goes out of whack for a few weeks at a time, could be random intervals, might cause anxiety, depression, anger and violent tendencies, sleeplessness, you name it. Once that happens, a pattern emerges due to lack of sleep and poor diet, it becomes easier to forget to take your medication on time, etc. and the whole process repeats. It also doesn't help we're placing kids on these medications from an early age and they spend their whole lives popping pills.

And video games have nothing to do with it, like I said. I'm a former gamer, been there, done that. Add to the mix a couple combat tours, I'm not exactly sitting here twitching --no violent tendencies, no medications.Perhaps in SMALL children, young kids, perhaps. But, teens and older, I would say absolutely not. Here's some info on the video game study: https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2019/02/15/new-study-shows-that-there-is-no-link-between-violent-video-games-and-aggression-in-teenagers/#10c0160a328e