Any truth to this?

KenpoKnight
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I was listening to a cigar authority podcast. They said that cigars from bidding sites have been known to be a lesser quality blend than what you might get from a B&M. This was so the companies could get the cigars listed for a lower cost on a bidding/auction site.
Just wondered if anyone has ever heard this before? Have you all noticed anything different? Maybe they said it to get people to steer toward B&M’s or their own online store?
Just wondered if anyone has ever heard this before? Have you all noticed anything different? Maybe they said it to get people to steer toward B&M’s or their own online store?
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So they are saying that the same brand/line of cigars is different at the bid site, than the B&M is getting?
I have CAO America that I got from the evil bid site and I have the same cigar from my local. They looks and smoke the same.
There are lines made specifically for those sites, but they aren't the same lines as you get in a shop, so yes on that, but no on the rest.In Fumo Pax
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.Wylaff said:Atmospheric pressure and crap.0 -
Which episode was that on? I've listened to almost all of them and don't remember them saying that@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.1
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Yes to your first question. They are saying supposedly they take the same cigar brand/line and they don’t make it the same(same blend not as strong?)as what you might get from a B&M.
I wouldn’t think this to be true but still made think about it.0 -
VegasFrank said:Which episode was that on? I've listened to almost all of them and don't remember them saying that0
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Gonna call BS on that.
I've bought many cigars on both bid sites.
No difference.
AF Short Story, Torano 1916, AJ New World and the list goes on and on.
If there is a difference, it is so slight it isn't distinguishable.
Not saying that there aren't some makers who make different levels of quality, just that the ones I buy, no difference.
In Fumo Pax
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.Wylaff said:Atmospheric pressure and crap.1 -
Cigarauctioneer is legit."I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
-- Winston Churchill
"LET'S GO FRANCIS" Peter2 -
0patience said:Gonna call BS on that.
I've bought many cigars on both bid sites.
No difference.
AF Short Story, Torano 1916, AJ New World and the list goes on and on.
If there is a difference, it is so slight it isn't distinguishable.
Not saying that there aren't some makers who make different levels of quality, just that the ones I buy, no difference.0 -
Usaf06 said:Cigarauctioneer is legit.1
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It doesn't make sense that a guy like Saka would spend 2 years developing a blend, say like Sobremesa, and then alter it to sell it cheaply. If people bought the cheap knockoff they may be turned off of the product thinking it was the real thing and it sucked
TCA is my fav cigar podcast, but they're off the rails on this one.@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.1 -
I have seen bundles, basically box quantity without the box, on cbid for example that I haven't found anywhere else. All the other online retailers sell the same brand but only in boxes.Now this is not the end of the cigar. It is not even the beginning of the end of the cigar. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning of the cigar.0
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Im pretty sure the reason they are able to get them so cheap from the manufacteres is because when you spend millions of dollars at a time they give you a pretty darn good deal. They buy in Volume and sell Volume6
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Complete and total BS, and I'm fairly certain I know who is behind that way of "thinking" as it's not the first time this person has tried to cause trouble in the cigar industry.
If you want to know truth without me revealing too much, there are companies out there that for various reasons negotiate better pricing on products from the manufacturers... Sometimes it's simply based off of volume purchased, and other times it's due to wanting to keep a long-standing (and profitable) relationship strong. Other than having proprietary products on some sites, everything on many of the cigar auction platforms is 100% legit.
I'm sure many of you know this, but almost all of the manufacturers have blends that simply sit on a shelf for years, and that's because they don't want to (or need to) necessarily put their own label on the cigars and sell; they sell these blends in bulk to trusted vendors who then brand them how they want them. These cigars too are not less-than, but for some reason there are people out there who view them as such.6 -
Well said @Trident and @TheCigarChick
It's called supply and demand, not bait and switch. How do we get good deals, buy in quanity Retailers buy in Bulk, and may need to reduce inventory of certain lines of product, or they may just buy in order to sell on auction balancing out profits over the losses. It has nothing to do with let's take a cheap cigar and put a better label on .It so people think they are getting a deal. Besides we all should know that these are hand made products and each will be like me, a little different.I was born a fool, and just got bigger!6