So I read dogs like squeaky toys because it it reminds them of an injured animal. Let’s hear some more.
I'm not saying they SHOULD be in. But I want Army to be in.
@Rdp77 said: Still didn’t answer my question.
They played the same Big 10 schedule as Oregon. The non-conference strength of schedule favors Oregon, but Penn State historically plays non-conference patsies, who were patsies while Penn State was unaffiliated. The patsies would have it no other way, because it is their biggest money-making game of the year.
So, disregarding the non-conference schedule, they have the same wins as Oregon, except Ohio State. So, if PSU has no quality wins, the ORE-OSU win, by one point, is Oregon's only quality win?
Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either.
@VegasFrank said: @TRayB said: @Rdp77 said: @TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it. @Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions. Oregon Georgia Boise AZ State - last bye team Texas ND Ohio State Tennessee last home game Penn St Clemson SMU - stupid kicker Indiana Out - Alabama Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas Georgia over Oregon in OT After Penn States showing tonight against Oregon, do you still think they are fake? I think not. Out-coached, yes, fake and overrated, no. Overrated? Yes. What quality wins do they have this season to garner a #3 ranking? 8-1 Big 10 record, only loss by one score to then #4 in the country, and loss in the Big 10 championship by one score to #1 team in the country. Name another team with such credentials. Lol no quality wins. Aller is smalltime in big-time situations. Never beat OSU or Michigan in his career. "One score loss" against both teams was bigger than the score indicated in both. If I were the committee I wouldn't give them a home game. Not over OSU. ND, Texas or Tennessee, all with top 15 wins on resume. 9 is their ceiling for the seeding IMO.
@VegasFrank said:
@TRayB said: @Rdp77 said: @TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it. @Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions. Oregon Georgia Boise AZ State - last bye team Texas ND Ohio State Tennessee last home game Penn St Clemson SMU - stupid kicker Indiana Out - Alabama Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas Georgia over Oregon in OT After Penn States showing tonight against Oregon, do you still think they are fake? I think not. Out-coached, yes, fake and overrated, no. Overrated? Yes. What quality wins do they have this season to garner a #3 ranking? 8-1 Big 10 record, only loss by one score to then #4 in the country, and loss in the Big 10 championship by one score to #1 team in the country. Name another team with such credentials.
@TRayB said:
@Rdp77 said: @TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it. @Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions. Oregon Georgia Boise AZ State - last bye team Texas ND Ohio State Tennessee last home game Penn St Clemson SMU - stupid kicker Indiana Out - Alabama Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas Georgia over Oregon in OT After Penn States showing tonight against Oregon, do you still think they are fake? I think not. Out-coached, yes, fake and overrated, no. Overrated? Yes. What quality wins do they have this season to garner a #3 ranking?
@Rdp77 said:
@TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it. @Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions. Oregon Georgia Boise AZ State - last bye team Texas ND Ohio State Tennessee last home game Penn St Clemson SMU - stupid kicker Indiana Out - Alabama Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas Georgia over Oregon in OT After Penn States showing tonight against Oregon, do you still think they are fake? I think not. Out-coached, yes, fake and overrated, no.
@VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it. @Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions. Oregon Georgia Boise AZ State - last bye team Texas ND Ohio State Tennessee last home game Penn St Clemson SMU - stupid kicker Indiana Out - Alabama Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas Georgia over Oregon in OT
@VegasFrank said: In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, I am hijacking this thread for college football and as my personal IM to Rusty.. Deal with it.
@Rdp77 holy crap finishes the championship games. My predictions.
Out - Alabama
Texas crushes Indiana ND 20 pt win over SMU Ohio State 10 point win over Clemson Tennessee smokes fake Penn State
Texas 10 point win over AZ State Boise last second win against ND Georgia blows out Ryan Day Oregon slips by Tennessee
Georgia smokes Boise Oregon kills Texas
Georgia over Oregon in OT
After Penn States showing tonight against Oregon, do you still think they are fake? I think not. Out-coached, yes, fake and overrated, no.
Overrated? Yes. What quality wins do they have this season to garner a #3 ranking?
8-1 Big 10 record, only loss by one score to then #4 in the country, and loss in the Big 10 championship by one score to #1 team in the country. Name another team with such credentials.
Lol no quality wins. Aller is smalltime in big-time situations. Never beat OSU or Michigan in his career. "One score loss" against both teams was bigger than the score indicated in both. If I were the committee I wouldn't give them a home game. Not over OSU. ND, Texas or Tennessee, all with top 15 wins on resume. 9 is their ceiling for the seeding IMO.
I tend to agree about Allar, he's a decent QB, but seems to shrink under pressure, although coaching plays into the OSU losses. OSU is in Lame Game James' head. He's only played Michigan once as a starter, though.
I disagree about the loss last night. PSU outrushed (292-183), almost doubling Oregon's yards-per-carry, outgained total yards, better 3rd down conversion pct. The difference was the QB, and two turnovers (plus some stupid coaching like going for two when down by one TD, and the deep throw on the last play, with plenty of time on the clock.)
@TRayB said: @Rdp77 said: Still didn’t answer my question. They played the same Big 10 schedule as Oregon. The non-conference strength of schedule favors Oregon, but Penn State historically plays non-conference patsies, who were patsies while Penn State was unaffiliated. The patsies would have it no other way, because it is their biggest money-making game of the year. So, disregarding the non-conference schedule, they have the same wins as Oregon, except Ohio State. So, if PSU has no quality wins, the ORE-OSU win, by one point, is Oregon's only quality win? Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either.
Once again, didn’t answer my question.
What quality win or wins does Penn State have to justify a #3 ranking?
My reasoning about anything has nothing to do with the question. You jumped in and claimed they were not overrated. So…. It’s a pretty simple question.
@TRayB said: Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either.
And Indiana was ranked 11 I believe. Just reinforces the point.
Good topic for this thread, IMO.
@Rdp77 said: @TRayB said: @Rdp77 said: Still didn’t answer my question. They played the same Big 10 schedule as Oregon. The non-conference strength of schedule favors Oregon, but Penn State historically plays non-conference patsies, who were patsies while Penn State was unaffiliated. The patsies would have it no other way, because it is their biggest money-making game of the year. So, disregarding the non-conference schedule, they have the same wins as Oregon, except Ohio State. So, if PSU has no quality wins, the ORE-OSU win, by one point, is Oregon's only quality win? Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either. Once again, didn’t answer my question. What quality win or wins does Penn State have to justify a #3 ranking? My reasoning about anything has nothing to do with the question. You jumped in and claimed they were not overrated. So…. It’s a pretty simple question.
Ya know, you're right. They have no quality wins. Just an 11-1 regular season record.
@Rdp77 said: @TRayB said: Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either. And Indiana was ranked 11 I believe. Just reinforces the point.
I do believe Indiana should be ranked higher.
Penn State wins: West Virginia Bowling Green Kent State Illinois UCLA USC Wisconsin Washington Purdue Minnesota Maryland
My flight is delayed by an hour which may scrub my plans to enjoy a Bishops Blend on the vHerf tonight with @VegasFrank.
@CharlieHeis said: Penn State wins: West Virginia Bowling Green Kent State Illinois UCLA USC Wisconsin Washington Purdue Minnesota Maryland
@TRayB Illinois is the only quality win. There were 5 solid teams in the conf this year and you avoided two and beat 1 (Illinois).
Looks like the committee gave Penn State more credit than I did for the score last night. All I saw was a team that was down by 14 or more points for most of the game, up until 3 minutes left. Even during that Penn State drive, it didn't look like they had a real chance, even though they ended up with the ball with a chance to tie.
I hear you about the bad coaching, but if the coaching is the reason that they're not competitive in big games, then you're in trouble. You have a big game coming up with the same coaching staff.
@Yakster said: My flight is delayed by an hour which may scrub my plans to enjoy a Bishops Blend on the vHerf tonight with @VegasFrank.
This is no bueno
@VegasFrank said: @CharlieHeis said: Penn State wins: West Virginia Bowling Green Kent State Illinois UCLA USC Wisconsin Washington Purdue Minnesota Maryland @TRayB Illinois is the only quality win. There were 5 solid teams in the conf this year and you avoided two and beat 1 (Illinois). Looks like the committee gave Penn State more credit than I did for the score last night. All I saw was a team that was down by 14 or more points for most of the game, up until 3 minutes left. Even during that Penn State drive, it didn't look like they had a real chance, even though they ended up with the ball with a chance to tie. I hear you about the bad coaching, but if the coaching is the reason that they're not competitive in big games, then you're in trouble. You have a big game coming up with the same coaching staff.
I agree with Illinois as a quality win.
They were down by 18 in the second quarter, and closed it to 4, then again down by 14 after three quarters, and finished by 8, as well as having (as previously mentioned) outperformed Oregon in all offensive categories except passing yards and turnovers.
As to the coaching, yes, I agree, and have stated that previously, along with my preferred solution.
Delays reduced.
@TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: @CharlieHeis said: Penn State wins: West Virginia Bowling Green Kent State Illinois UCLA USC Wisconsin Washington Purdue Minnesota Maryland @TRayB Illinois is the only quality win. There were 5 solid teams in the conf this year and you avoided two and beat 1 (Illinois). Looks like the committee gave Penn State more credit than I did for the score last night. All I saw was a team that was down by 14 or more points for most of the game, up until 3 minutes left. Even during that Penn State drive, it didn't look like they had a real chance, even though they ended up with the ball with a chance to tie. I hear you about the bad coaching, but if the coaching is the reason that they're not competitive in big games, then you're in trouble. You have a big game coming up with the same coaching staff. I agree with Illinois as a quality win. outperformed Oregon in all offensive categories except passing yards and turnovers.
outperformed Oregon in all offensive categories except passing yards and turnovers.
...and score 😉
@VegasFrank said: @TRayB said: @VegasFrank said: @CharlieHeis said: Penn State wins: West Virginia Bowling Green Kent State Illinois UCLA USC Wisconsin Washington Purdue Minnesota Maryland @TRayB Illinois is the only quality win. There were 5 solid teams in the conf this year and you avoided two and beat 1 (Illinois). Looks like the committee gave Penn State more credit than I did for the score last night. All I saw was a team that was down by 14 or more points for most of the game, up until 3 minutes left. Even during that Penn State drive, it didn't look like they had a real chance, even though they ended up with the ball with a chance to tie. I hear you about the bad coaching, but if the coaching is the reason that they're not competitive in big games, then you're in trouble. You have a big game coming up with the same coaching staff. I agree with Illinois as a quality win. outperformed Oregon in all offensive categories except passing yards and turnovers. ...and score 😉
Well yes, there is that, too.
A math problem delineating the largest-size sofa that can fit around a corner has finally been solved....
https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/mathematics/infamous-sofa-problem-that-boggled-mathematicians-for-decades-may-finally-have-a-solution
@VegasFrank why are some of these Navy guys wearing Army unit patches??
@Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank why are some of these Navy guys wearing Army unit patches??
Are you sure that they are army unit patches? I'm not, and I can definitely be wrong about that.
@VegasFrank said: @Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank why are some of these Navy guys wearing Army unit patches?? Are you sure that they are army unit patches? I'm not, and I can definitely be wrong about that.
Navy QB is definitely wearing an 82nd Airborne patch
@Rdp77 said: @VegasFrank said: @Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank why are some of these Navy guys wearing Army unit patches?? Are you sure that they are army unit patches? I'm not, and I can definitely be wrong about that. Navy QB is definitely wearing an 82nd Airborne patch
There's apparently a really cool article at this link, but is behind a **** paywall and I'm not going to be subscribing to the Baltimore gazette or the other newspaper that has it.
https://www.capitalgazette.com/2024/12/13/army-navy-game-navy-players-jersey-patch/
@VegasFrank said: @Rdp77 said: @VegasFrank said: @Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank why are some of these Navy guys wearing Army unit patches?? Are you sure that they are army unit patches? I'm not, and I can definitely be wrong about that. Navy QB is definitely wearing an 82nd Airborne patch There's apparently a really cool article at this link, but is behind a **** paywall and I'm not going to be subscribing to the Baltimore gazette or the other newspaper that has it. https://www.capitalgazette.com/2024/12/13/army-navy-game-navy-players-jersey-patch/
lol that’s the only one I could find too. That’s why I asked if you knew because I sure wasn’t going to pay for it either.
And now I’m wondering how the Navy QB is related to Ohio State’s first Heisman winner
Here's a list of Navy players and the patch they wear.
https://navysports.com/news/2024/12/10/navy-football-patch-list-for-the-army-navy-game.aspx
well, not useless to sheep ranchers,
toxins from different poisonous plants can turn up in cattle earwax.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/sheep-earwax-record-dangerous-diet
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@silvermouse said: A math problem delineating the largest-size sofa that can fit around a corner has finally been solved....
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@VegasFrank this is what you get when participation trophies are handed out to appease conference heads. I hope the committee is enjoying the level of competition of the game last night and the one so far today. I’m just glad there’s an NFL game on too.
@Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank this is what you get when participation trophies are handed out to appease conference heads. I hope the committee is enjoying the level of competition of the game last night and the one so far today. I’m just glad there’s an NFL game on too.
So then, not a quality win for PSU?
No
@TRayB said: @Rdp77 said:@VegasFrank this is what you get when participation trophies are handed out to appease conference heads. I hope the committee is enjoying the level of competition of the game last night and the one so far today. I’m just glad there’s an NFL game on too. So then, not a quality win for PSU?
Raise the banner. Halalujia.
