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@silvermouse said:
From an Aristotelian stance our sensory perceptions are inescapably tied to our concept of reality, but what about transcendent reality. "Reality" is, after all, an idea, not a fact. Seeing is believing, etc.

The quote is from Ulysses
p.s.-- sorry Peter, take two aspirins and call me in the morning, lol

I was thinking about Plato and his writing on the "Allegory of the Cave".

@silvermouse said:
Good! I never succeeded in developing the self-control to do that. I would intend to....

Didn't end up drinking at the wedding. Was holding my 9mo old granddaughter half the time. Way better than drinking.

https://www.livescience.com/animals/fish/pacific-spiny-lumpsucker-the-fun-size-fish-that-evolved-a-suction-cup-so-it-could-stay-put-for-a-minute