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Re: What is in your pipe?
I can't help but think that pipe would have really nice grain if it had a smooth finish.
ShawnOL
Re: Political Discussions
@Amos_Umwhat said:
@VegasFrank said:
@Amos_Umwhat said:
@silvermouse said:
This strikes me as an outstanding example of race baiting propaganda. Exactly of the nature to ensure that conflict between the races remains active in our country, and never dies.
With complete disregard of facts or truth, Mr. Bolling reaches into the psyche of the disaffected or delusional, offends anyone who believes in merit as being a primary source of personal accomplishment, thus keeping the flames of hatred stoked in order to provide a source of power for those who wish to exploit those sentiments in certain segments of our population.
Well, that's politics for you. Some things never change. I'm sure the Socialists will enjoy the gist of this one.
I should add that I don't fault Edward, having lived through the years when institutional racism was a real thing I say none of us want that to return. Why don't we just let it die?
I don't mean to start anything up because I really don't want to, but I think it's important that we all realize it's an institutional racism is alive and well in the United States of America. I was like you Steve. I didn't believe it I even spoke against the idea several times. And I adopted a black kid. I can tell you that it's real. I can give you a hundred no **** examples that will be tldr. Or maybe you wouldn't even agree with some of them. Maybe you would agree that was institutional racism just racism.
But that's not true. To me institutional or systemic racism means that the racism is built into the system + the system leaves one with very few choices but to remain in the system. Credit scores, public schools, social services, grocery stores, and prisons are all examples that keep systemic or institutional racism alive in this country.
You can slice it and dice it and alibi it anyway you want, but the bottom line is that if you're born into poverty, you're going to grow up in poverty and you're going to live in poverty as an adult. If you go up a class it is only one class. There are no outs unless you can shoot a basketball or sing a song. Poor people are born with no money they're trying to act like they have no money they're not giving opportunities to make any money, and they are encouraged to reproduce in the neighborhood with no money so their children grow up poor.
You're probably right. I remember the days of separate water fountains, whites only lunch counters, separate schools etc.,which thankfully are gone. That's what I think of when I say institutional racism. I was just a kid, but I remember.
My Dad was a loud voice for change in those days, and change came. It seemed that it was only a matter of time, and letting the oldsters die off, before we would inevitably reach MLK's dream. I longed for the day when a persons worth would be determined solely by the content of his character. I still do. That's why I said I don't fault Edward for posting the cartoon, I'm sure that was the intent.
I see the cartoon in question as being race baiting. I'm sure it was meant to expose the underlying racism that, sadly, still exists in our society, however I believe that it is one of many things that will serve only to perpetuate and exacerbate that very thing. I believe that we are long overdue to let such things go. Let those feelings die.
Unfortunately, just like when the military is always "fighting the last war" instead of the one taking place right now, I think that such things as Black History Month or Black Entertainment Television are simply prolonging the olden days, and preventing the healing of society. It seems like self-imposed segregation, just like the klan used to preach.
I'd just like to see us let it go and treat each other based solely on the work we put into being the people we are. Instead, hate seems to be endemic. It seems that even with the best of intentions we judge each other based on superficial trivialities. This is evident in our political games. I keep seeing references to "MAGA hate", but I also see videos of black people attending MAGA rallies where they are greeted with phrases like "Good to see you", and "Glad you came out", and "Isn't it a lovely day.
Contrast that with what might happen to an old white guy in a MAGA hat at a Harris/Walz rally.
Not pretty.
I could go on, but I hope I've sufficiently conveyed my point. Thanks for the reasonable response.
A lot said there. I also appreciate your perspective and won't argue about how far we have come because we have come very far.
I disagree with you hun celebrating black history or Black culture or women's culture or any other culture in America. For so long in this country, races and ethnicities and demographics were segregated into different neighborhoods and different regions and were shamed for being where they were from. Just like we celebrate Irish culture on St Patrick's Day or Mexican culture on Cinco de Mayo, there is nothing wrong with saying, "hey, this guy did something pretty cool in the 1950s." The best part about these celebrations is that you don't have to take part in them if you don't want to. Let people take part and let people have a good time and let them feel proud. If you don't want to participate, have a nice day sir.
Speaking of greeting somebody softly with have a nice day, I find your maga rally comment to be funny really. I wonder how a butch blue haired lady wearing an "I'm with Her" t-shirt would be received at a trump rally, or two effeminate black fellas holding hands would be received.
No I don't, of course. 😂
https://youtu.be/jd95dufYBrU?si=-xf-8q1Ly8WvXOt2
Just like the all-male black couple or the blue haired woman with the T-shirt, I think that anybody who wears a mega hat to a Democratic rally is there simply looking for trouble, and they shouldn't be there. Of course, we will blame the crowd instead of the instigator in all three cases, at least if it can sell one single advertisement.
Thanks Steve, appreciate your perspective. Have a nice day.
Itsfine
Re: Political Discussions
it will be interesting to see how this plays out:
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White House aide Peter Navarro said Sunday that he expects President Donald Trump’s tariffs to bring in $6 trillion in revenue in the next decade, which could amount to the largest tax hike in US history.
Even when adjusting for inflation, that amount would be triple the tax increase put in place in 1942 to pay the cost of fighting World War II.
Navarro, Trump’s senior counselor for trade and manufacturing, insists it’s not a tax increase but a tax cut — echoing the Trump administration’s repeated belief that tariffs will be paid not by American consumers but by businesses in other countries or the countries themselves.
“The message is that tariffs are tax cuts, tariffs are jobs, tariffs are national security,” Navarro said on Fox News Sunday. “Tariffs are great for America. They will make America great again.”
But most economists say US-imposed tariffs are paid by American businesses and consumers in the form of higher prices on imported goods, not paid by foreigners.
more here: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/economy/tariffs-largest-tax-hike/index.html
Re: Stupid **** that pops into my head
Your future doctor is using ChatGPT to pass med school so you better start eating healthy.
MrShrek
Re: Existing discussion posting problems
@TheCigarChick said:
In all honesty, despite some time having passed I'm not certain if my replacement is even on the Forum yet.
Re: Things I Hate
I don’t like the fact that the response options and number of responders to a category is the SAME color.
Re: Hows your Weather?
@ShawnOL said:
34 at the moment. Supposed to only get to 41 today. Where the hell is spring?
https://www.iflscience.com/the-polar-vortex-may-deliver-an-ice-cold-april-to-the-us-and-canada-78634
peter4jc
Re: Existing discussion posting problems
@ShawnOL said:
Congratulations, Lindsay. Don't forget us when you're a corporate bigshot.
Who's to say I'm not already a corporate bigshot who simply plays it cool? ![]()
Re: merry memes
@Amos_Umwhat said:
@Bob_Luken said:
@OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
This one I need help with. Rusty, why did you give it an LOL?
I have to say that I felt the same. Were those actual women in the basement? If so, were they captives? Then there's the fact that the people on the surface had faces, those in the basement did not. Dolls?
All in all, rather disturbing. Plus, I'm an introvert. Should I be offended?
Of course, it's a cartoon. How much stock should one put in overthinking a cartoon?
That's all.
For now.
For all of you that are giving a meme such lengthy mental bandwidth on its intentional or unintentional meaning, allow me l, a trained psychologist, to interpret for you. This dude clearly has people anxiety so he retreats to his unconscious, comfort mechanism of imaginary people, this case women (faceless, because he knows he can’t really get a real girlfriend), because that’s his true desire (to be accepted authentically by a woman/girlfriend). Wow. I can’t believe you guys didn’t get this LMFAO. Glad to be able to shed some professional insight.





