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@ShawnOL said:
Ever notice the Amish have virtually no autistics yet they don't vax? Just a thought.

So you're saying they get tested on an equal amount as the rest of the country?

Amish life centers on church, family, home and work. Involvement with the health care system is approached with the belief that medicine helps, but God alone heals. The ability to work and provide for family is the motivation for maintaining good health.

Fundamentally, babies are believed to be a gift from God. Going further, Amish believe that their body is the temple of God and that as human beings they should be good stewards of their bodies, which are given as a gift to do God’s work. Good health is also considered a gift from God and deserves to be taken care of. Family relationships are highly valued, thus taking care of the health of loved ones is of importance.

Health conscious behaviors are considered the norm among the Amish. As a population, they use less tobacco, less alcohol, less salt, and more vitamin and mineral supplements. With increased income among the Amish, as in many American sub cultures, there is increasingly more packaged food purchased for home consumption and more meals eaten outside the home than compared to a decade ago.

The Amish religion does not restrict people from seeking modern medical care. For the most part, Amish use local doctors and dentists and will go to specialists and hospitals as determined. Which health care services the Amish deem useful versus which services the English deem as necessities results in the cultural differences and values about modern health care.

The Amish are very cautious health care consumers. They pay for most of their medical procedures out-of-pocket and in cash. All forms of insurance are generally discouraged, including medical health care coverage. Purchasing insurance shows a lack of faith in God who provides.

Given that the Amish are economical in their health care choices, they prefer to self-medicate or remedy an ailment by recommendation from family and friends before seeing health professionals. Some recommendations are considered to be folk medicine and include practices of faith healing, herbal treatments and other non-traditional medical remedies. The use of folk remedies for minor ailments is based on the need of the Amish to remain self-sufficient.

If there does not seem to be improvement as a result of their own remedies, then they will usually turn to health care providers for service. Thus, when an Amish person does show up in the emergency room, the provider often assumes that the person has already experienced much pain and may be advanced in their medical condition. The expression of physical symptoms may be minimized, since this might be interpreted as complaining against God’s will.

Preventative health care is not as widely accepted as in the U.S. population norm. Again, the cultural norm of faith in God as well as consciousness of ability to pay out-of-pocket for medical procedures without burdening the family or the larger Amish community is considered prior to accepting professional medical support. In America today, those with less ability to pay for health care are offered options to attend free clinics or receive government support. The Amish would deem offers of this kind to be inappropriate and would refuse to accept them.

The larger Amish community provides resources for health care needs beyond the ability of the family to provide. Thus, the collection of resources to support hospital stays, organ transplants, treatment of disease or extended illnesses are a communal decision. With the emphasis on communal care rather than individual care, the decision is often made to forgo a procedure that is deemed too costly – and may burden the community too much. It is common for Amish to reject extraordinary measures to save a life, as such measures may attempt to interfere with God’s will.

“Bear one another’s burdens” (Galations 6:2) represents the Amish belief of taking care of the sick, elderly and feeble in their community. This responsibility is highly regarded as Amish church members often make bank payments and perform farm chores for family members that are sick or without income. Amish and English often work alongside each other when a neighbor falls ill or needs to be away from their farm to care for a failing family member.

Edit : From https://www.ohiosamishcountry.com/articles/the-health-of-the-amish#:~:text=The Amish religion does not restrict people from seeking modern medical care.

Of course they also don't eat food with a bunch of chemicals in it.

@VegasFrank said:
We as a society have had to suffer through a gigantic anti-vaxx movement brought on by an irresponsible study done by a fuçking hack who claimed that autism rates were higher in children who were vaccinated against measles and meningitis than in children who did not receive these immunizations.

The study was never peer-reviewed and it proved to be wrong. Correlation does not equal causation. In fact, the main reason that the rates were higher in vaccinated children was because vaccinated children are more likely to get healthcare and therefore a diagnosis-- of autism or any other mental or physical ailment-- and children whose parents choose not to vaccinate are more likely to mistrust or distrust the medical system, especially clinical psychologists who often run the battery of tests that serves as the basis for the diagnosis.

This paper received viral media coverage on both the traditional media outlets such as local news and newspapers, as well as through internet spreading on sites like Facebook and others. The result was a huge movement of people who refused to vaccinate their children, children who don't have a choice, and resulted in hot areas of all of these diseases that we've essentially eradicated through good medicine.

This is a problem, not just because these people suffer these ailments now, but also because the small amount of population who simply cannot get vaccinations due to having serious physical ailments or transplants are now exposed to these deadly diseases in an immunocompromised State condition because some fukking moron read something on Facebook and thought they were the fukking expert.

I simply will Not believe any of this fuçking bullshït until I see a peer-reviewed paper published in a major medical or scholarly journal with results repeated by a different entity.

But if I were you I would definitely invest in the ****. I heard injecting yourself with bleach helps a bunch of ailments too 😂

Hepatitis vaccines in early infants. That's what I have read as cause of rise in Autism. My children are vaccinated but my wife, who is a nurse manager in labor and delivery, and myself agree now that we wouldn't vaccinate the kids if we did it over again. To each is own.

Here ya go Frank

Snowed till midday and a hard freeze tonight. We still have folks without power up here. Helos still delivering generators, food, firewood, and water. The arts community in Asheville took a big time hit and most of Asheville is still under a boil water directive. I have a friend who's neighbors were swept off the roof of their house and drowned. Lucy and I were lucky.

Autism isn’t a new thing in human history. The diagnosis spectrum is. Many scholars believe that people we see as “geniuses” throughout history were autistic. Names that have come up are Mozart, Galileo, and Newton to name a few.

We've dropped down into the 90's this week , calling for 70's by Saturday. Our fall tends to be brief.

Typical Mo weather, record high temps last week, below freezing this morning. High temps forecasted in the 80s this weekend.