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@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:
@peter4jc

I think you're very smart. I think you knew what you were doing when you posted it. If it were meant to have been a joke, I don't think you would've posted it in the political discussion...... discussion thread. I don't think you posted it as some sort of joke where everyone would understand it came from a satirical website either. If it were to be a joke, you would've posted where it came from. I think this is exactly the type of thing we talk about all the time, where you can just report something and people will believe it as fact. Maybe it's just easier to be more tolerant at a younger age, maybe it's a generational thing. I don't know.

I think Peter definitely posted this as a joke, and assumed people had average intelligence and could realize it was a joke. I've posted meme's or other forms of humor in here instead of other threads to keep politics out of the way of the people who don't want to see that, since it's so divisive. I'd imagine he was doing the same thing.

I think the tolerance point you bring up is interesting, since you seem to struggle with that at times. Are you calling yourself old?

Yes I'm old, and I wear pants. But I'm no lady. Can you give me an example where I've ever been intolerant of anybody's opinion? Or is this just your opinion?

Or is this just a "pot-shot" "people had average intelligence" ?? 😳 That's sneaky good, really good.... attacking at the man.... attaboy!

Would you describe this as tolerant, or intolerant, if you had to pick? And for the record, you immediately knew that what Peter posted was satire as soon as you read it, since you went and looked it up due to how outrageous it was. I believe everyone else did also, because I don't think you or anyone else was dumb enough to believe that was real. I wasn't calling you stupid, I was calling you smart.

Tolerant. As you're the one who posted it. I just pointed it out. Still standing behind that I like it! So I guess that is tolerance.

Yes, I did in fact post that you and everyone else on here had above average intelligence.

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me in this thread. I'm touched.

Could just be me, but I think requesting a link to a parody post that's obviously parody, is the same as making coffee cups say "caution, coffee is hot". If you think people could read that post and think that she really said that, then I guess we just don't view people the same?

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:
@peter4jc

I think you're very smart. I think you knew what you were doing when you posted it. If it were meant to have been a joke, I don't think you would've posted it in the political discussion...... discussion thread. I don't think you posted it as some sort of joke where everyone would understand it came from a satirical website either. If it were to be a joke, you would've posted where it came from. I think this is exactly the type of thing we talk about all the time, where you can just report something and people will believe it as fact. Maybe it's just easier to be more tolerant at a younger age, maybe it's a generational thing. I don't know.

I think Peter definitely posted this as a joke, and assumed people had average intelligence and could realize it was a joke. I've posted meme's or other forms of humor in here instead of other threads to keep politics out of the way of the people who don't want to see that, since it's so divisive. I'd imagine he was doing the same thing.

I think the tolerance point you bring up is interesting, since you seem to struggle with that at times. Are you calling yourself old?

Yes I'm old, and I wear pants. But I'm no lady. Can you give me an example where I've ever been intolerant of anybody's opinion? Or is this just your opinion?

Or is this just a "pot-shot" "people had average intelligence" ?? 😳 That's sneaky good, really good.... attacking at the man.... attaboy!

Would you describe this as tolerant, or intolerant, if you had to pick? And for the record, you immediately knew that what Peter posted was satire as soon as you read it, since you went and looked it up due to how outrageous it was. I believe everyone else did also, because I don't think you or anyone else was dumb enough to believe that was real. I wasn't calling you stupid, I was calling you smart.

Tolerant. As you're the one who posted it. I just pointed it out. Still standing behind that I like it! So I guess that is tolerance.

Yes, I did in fact post that you and everyone else on here had above average intelligence.

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me in this thread. I'm touched.

@peter4jc said:

@Vision said:

@peter4jc said:
And after the pot-shot...

Oh, that was just a joke.

Did you think I was serious?

What? You don't recognize sarcasm?

Those have never come from me. I call out the bullshit, not spew it.

I was paraphrasing, sure, but that's your MO. And that's why I asked "what's your point" because when your post a "drive-by" that can be taken one way or another, and someone calls it out, you like to backpedal with one of the above responses (or something like it). I'm not taking the time to go back and search for examples, but I don't think I'm the only one who notices.

No, you're not. And, I think he's being serious.

Words fail me, this is the point when we southerners just say "Bless his heart" and let it go.

@Vision said:

@CalvinAndHobo said:

@Vision said:
@peter4jc

I think you're very smart. I think you knew what you were doing when you posted it. If it were meant to have been a joke, I don't think you would've posted it in the political discussion...... discussion thread. I don't think you posted it as some sort of joke where everyone would understand it came from a satirical website either. If it were to be a joke, you would've posted where it came from. I think this is exactly the type of thing we talk about all the time, where you can just report something and people will believe it as fact. Maybe it's just easier to be more tolerant at a younger age, maybe it's a generational thing. I don't know.

I think Peter definitely posted this as a joke, and assumed people had average intelligence and could realize it was a joke. I've posted meme's or other forms of humor in here instead of other threads to keep politics out of the way of the people who don't want to see that, since it's so divisive. I'd imagine he was doing the same thing.

I think the tolerance point you bring up is interesting, since you seem to struggle with that at times. Are you calling yourself old?

Yes I'm old, and I wear pants. But I'm no lady. Can you give me an example where I've ever been intolerant of anybody's opinion? Or is this just your opinion?

Or is this just a "pot-shot" "people had average intelligence" ?? 😳 That's sneaky good, really good.... attacking at the man.... attaboy!

Would you describe this as tolerant, or intolerant, if you had to pick? And for the record, you immediately knew that what Peter posted was satire as soon as you read it, since you went and looked it up due to how outrageous it was. I believe everyone else did also, because I don't think you or anyone else was dumb enough to believe that was real. I wasn't calling you stupid, I was calling you smart.

@Vision said:

@peter4jc said:
And after the pot-shot...

Oh, that was just a joke.

Did you think I was serious?

What? You don't recognize sarcasm?

Those have never come from me. I call out the bullshit, not spew it.

I was paraphrasing, sure, but that's your MO. And that's why I asked "what's your point" because when your post a "drive-by" that can be taken one way or another, and someone calls it out, you like to backpedal with one of the above responses (or something like it). I'm not taking the time to go back and search for examples, but I don't think I'm the only one who notices.

Note to self; make it abundantly clear to include any posts from the Bee are meant as satire. Don't assume anybody will take it as an actual news story.

As for the satire in the Bee article, based on the numerous Dem commentors agreeing Harris' book and her tour to promote was ill-timed, self-serving, and hurtful to the party.

timing...

@Vision said:
@peter4jc

I think you're very smart. I think you knew what you were doing when you posted it. If it were meant to have been a joke, I don't think you would've posted it in the political discussion...... discussion thread. I don't think you posted it as some sort of joke where everyone would understand it came from a satirical website either. If it were to be a joke, you would've posted where it came from. I think this is exactly the type of thing we talk about all the time, where you can just report something and people will believe it as fact. Maybe it's just easier to be more tolerant at a younger age, maybe it's a generational thing. I don't know.

I think Peter definitely posted this as a joke, and assumed people had average intelligence and could realize it was a joke. I've posted meme's or other forms of humor in here instead of other threads to keep politics out of the way of the people who don't want to see that, since it's so divisive. I'd imagine he was doing the same thing.

I think the tolerance point you bring up is interesting, since you seem to struggle with that at times. Are you calling yourself old?

@Amos_Umwhat said:
Peter probably should have made clear that his post came from Babylon Bee, I have to agree there.

Of course, it sounded so much like something that she would say that it was hard to tell the difference. That's why he needed to clarify.

To your point, she said some really dumb things during her campaign, which cost her votes and possibly the election. I wasn't sticking up for her, neither did I vote for her.

@silvermouse said:
“At the request of [Homeland Security Secretary] Kristi Noem, I am directing [Hegseth] to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE facilities under siege from attack by antifa, and other domestic terrorists,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Trump said he has authorized “full force, if necessary.”

This is a sticky wicket, to borrow a phrase. It is alarming, in my opinion, and seemingly a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus act. If I'm correct, only the National Guard, at the behest of a state's governor, can take such actions lawfully. This is disturbing, to say the least.

The larger problem, as I see it, is that the governors have been unwilling to take action themselves. Behind that inaction, of course, is the question as to whether or not such action is warranted at all.

Locally I'm aware that the possibility of such need may exist. For instance, when a local High School football team travels to Memphis to play against a H.S. team there, a Sheriff's escort is necessary to escort the team into and out from the Memphis school. This is done to prevent actual violence in the form of beatings, stabbings, and shootings done by the Memphis residents. Over a stupid football game! High School!

I'm guessing that it is things of this nature, as well as other offenses, that are prompting the use of troops.

So, if the local police can't guarantee the populations safety, and the Governors won't act to protect their citizens, who will?

Any suggestions?

Is the Federal response to be "Oh, you guys aren't worried, so why should we care?"

How should we deal with acceptance of acts of violence and carnage at the State level?

Hand wringing doesn't count.