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@Rdp77 said:

@TRayB said:

@Rdp77 said:
Still didn’t answer my question.

They played the same Big 10 schedule as Oregon. The non-conference strength of schedule favors Oregon, but Penn State historically plays non-conference patsies, who were patsies while Penn State was unaffiliated. The patsies would have it no other way, because it is their biggest money-making game of the year.

So, disregarding the non-conference schedule, they have the same wins as Oregon, except Ohio State. So, if PSU has no quality wins, the ORE-OSU win, by one point, is Oregon's only quality win?

Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either.

Once again, didn’t answer my question.

What quality win or wins does Penn State have to justify a #3 ranking?

My reasoning about anything has nothing to do with the question. You jumped in and claimed they were not overrated. So….
It’s a pretty simple question.

Ya know, you're right. They have no quality wins. Just an 11-1 regular season record.

@Rdp77 said:

@TRayB said:

Indiana played some patsies, too (77-3 vs. Western Illinois; 52-14 vs. Charlotte), but otherwise played a very similar Big 10 schedule as PSU and Oregon, and lost to Ohio State. So, by your reasoning, they have no quality wins either.

And Indiana was ranked 11 I believe. Just reinforces the point.

I do believe Indiana should be ranked higher.

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