A scripture a day keeps the devil at bay.
roland_7707
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So, Iv had this idea for a while and my new years resolution is to tell more people about Christ.
Its pretty simple, I am gonna try and post a scripture a day.
Im not a scholar, or theologian, I wont pretend to be. If you don't like it, don't read it.
Im going to start with probably the best known one. John 3:16.
Here we go.
John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
Its pretty simple, I am gonna try and post a scripture a day.
Im not a scholar, or theologian, I wont pretend to be. If you don't like it, don't read it.
Im going to start with probably the best known one. John 3:16.
Here we go.
John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
One God, One Truth
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This is a well thought out thread and long overdue in my book!
Congratulations on being the one who started it my friend!
Pardon my addition to your post but to paraphrase, always start at the beginning.
And how is it any different than a regular minister.
Is ordained a different sect of religion or something?
I've never been able to figure that one out.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
Love the idea here
thanks for posting it. Keep it going.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
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23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24. Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25. Whom God hath set forth to be a propitation through faith in his blood, to declare his rightousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26. To declare, I say, at this time his rightousness: that he might be just, and the justifer of him which believeth in Jesus.
20 And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat: 21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness: 22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness. Lev 16:20-22 (KJV)
One of my first papers ever written was on the topic of Salvation for the people of the Old Testament and how it came to be. Man had greatly angered God many times before this period in time, The Great Flood, The Swallowing of people and families through the ground with the opening up to the Abyss and the Fiery Serpents that was staved through the Brass Serpent that was erected by Moses just to mention a few. This thread my friends will Testify to those who read it through but do not interpret it as reading the Scriptures for it is but a tool to be recognized as such, started by a Great friend and a good man with your best interest at heart. And I do apologize for my long post but the words came upon me and I had no choice but to write them. Dane, this in my opinion, is the best gift you could have given to the community of our little forum!
I would suggest that the first redemption for the sins of man came long before that, brother...
Genesis 3:21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
In order to make "garments of skin" it was necessary to slay the animals that previously wore them. This was done by God himself, in order to provide a covering for Adam and Eve because of their disobedience. They had tried, at first, to cover themselves with leaves, but God showed them that a sacrifice was necessary, because "without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins." This was the beginning of the Old Testament sacrifices that pointed forward to the ultimate sacrifice that would come through Jesus thousands of years later.
Absolutely true to a point.
But a true redemption within The Garden Of Eden did not occur because of the shame felt by Adam and Eve for the fact of knowing nudity after the Eating of the fruit from The Tree Of Good And Evil, also known as The Tree of Knowledge to some, and the fact that they both hid from God as He strolled near unto them because of the knowledge of nudity. This happened not for the Salvation of mankind. Remember that unto this time sin had never occurred and was unto that day unknown. The skins were merely a tool for them to be comforted by in the presence of the Lord as they had sewed the Fig leaves together you mentioned to hide they're shame by that point. This was why they were punished and cast from Eternal Life within the Gardens and put through the first trials of mankind, including child birth.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. 20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. 21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Gen 3:16-24 (KJV)
This was an act of punishment more than an act of Redemption.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The "seed" of the woman, who would crush the head of the serpent, was none other than Jesus. This was the first promise of His coming. And it was in the context of that first Gospel promise that God covered the shame of Adam and Eve with animal skins - not as a punishment, but as a promise of the grace that was yet to be revealed.
1 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene, 2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. 3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins; 4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; 6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
Agreed. But as to redemption, in my opinion from my studies, we still have to look to Leviticus. Some would state that Noah and the flood, by the sparing of a family, would be redemption but again it was a sparing of a righteous man and his family not a true redemption.
Please continue this discussion as, I and others, learn something new every day about The Word through study and discussion. Teach and I will learn.
Romans 3:10-12 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Even Noah was not saved from the flood because of his own righteousness. Genesis 6:8 says that Noah found "favor" in the eyes of the Lord, but the word "favor" in the original Hebrew means "grace" which is unmerited. Noah needed redemption like every other fallen son of Adam. Which is why he was told to bring SEVEN of certain kinds of animals with him on the ark - because some of them were to be offered as sacrifices when the flood waters had subsided.
Genesis 8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
All of the blood sacrifices of the Old Testament were designed to picture forgiveness of sin through the blood of a substitute, which pictured the redemption of Jesus on the cross. In Leviticus, those sacrifices were incorporated into formal worship of the tabernacle, but they had always been pictures of redemption.
Likewise, my friend. The only way for any of us to learn is to discuss, and compare our opinions and those of others with the Word. I appreciate your perspectives.
Sorry if I get carried away in my responses. I actually wrote a whole book on the subject of worship that you can check out at
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/doug1077
I'm more of the belief that God's redemptive work has been visible in scripture since the moment of the fall and that his intention has always been redemption of "man" (assuming this was meant in a generic sense in the OP). The blessing of Abraham to create a great nation...to serve as a royal priesthood for all other nations? Sounds like the redemption of man to me.
But what do I know, I'm the guy who is rooting for Bill Nye to put a whuppin on Ken Hamm because I don't read these Genesis accounts as a science book.
I appreciate this thread and will check-in from time-to-time, but it kind of violates my three rules of Bible study...context, context, context. The whole single verse thing has led to far too many abuses in my faith tradition, and others that I've encountered as well.
I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot. I will smoke anything, though.
26. Come unto me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
27. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly of heart: and you will find rest upon your souls.
28. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Too the serpent.
Not too man.
My works are scattered throughout the world as I see a need to fulfill and send them also.I will search out and kindle your book for knowledge after all is the power of the Power!
Many times were man Blessed, but few the times of Redemption.
Amen!