“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”
― Frédéric Bastiat
I didn’t take you for a liberal.....
"Under extraordinary circumstances, for urgent cases, the State should set aside some resources to assist certain unfortunate people, to help them adjust to changing conditions"
Frédéric Bastiat
Welfare wasn’t ever designed to be a permanent income solution. The Brits have that, along with a LOT of other “free” handouts like health care & housing, and it has evolved into a “gimme” society. Why work if Betty’s gonna give you a place to live, pay you, and take care if you? Zero incentive. Wait for it here.....
I'm still troubled by what I did for that Klondike bar...
Welfare wasn’t ever designed to be a permanent income solution. The Brits have that, along with a LOT of other “free” handouts like health care & housing, and it has evolved into a “gimme” society. Why work if Betty’s gonna give you a place to live, pay you, and take care if you? Zero incentive. Wait for it here.....
Welfare wasn’t ever designed to be a permanent income solution. The Brits have that, along with a LOT of other “free” handouts like health care & housing, and it has evolved into a “gimme” society. Why work if Betty’s gonna give you a place to live, pay you, and take care if you? Zero incentive. Wait for it here.....
So you agree with the quote?
To a point. Assistance should be precisely that. Assistance. Not a form of subsistence.
I'm still troubled by what I did for that Klondike bar...
Tiger Woods was driving about 40 m.p.h. over the speed limit when he crashed his car in February, according to the Los Angeles County sheriff.
Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:14 PM EST
Woods was not cited for driving too fast and no criminal charges will be filed, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said.
Tiger Woods was driving about 40 m.p.h. over the speed limit when he crashed his car in February, according to the Los Angeles County sheriff.
Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:14 PM EST
Woods was not cited for driving too fast and no criminal charges will be filed, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said.
The same sheriff who would deny you your right to own and carry guns.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
Two people are dead after being shot by an off-duty police officer in a condo parking lot in Takoma Park, Maryland early Wednesday morning, police said.
Tiger Woods was driving about 40 m.p.h. over the speed limit when he crashed his car in February, according to the Los Angeles County sheriff.
Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:14 PM EST
Woods was not cited for driving too fast and no criminal charges will be filed, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said.
I was shocked to see hauled out Tiger, all Oxy'd up on the TV giving an interview before the trophy presentation. His face was red, eyes glazed up, slurring words and what does he go and do...plows off a cliff. I think he finally learned his DWI lesson sadly.
If you quote me do the @TX98Z28 in your text or I won't be notified of your quote, Thanks.
United Airlines has announced a new diversity initiative intended to guarantee that 8 years from now, fully half of their new pilots will be women and people of color. So far, there is no word on how many will be illegal aliens, LGBTQ+ (who will naturally fly biplanes), or Uber drivers looking for a side gig.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
@silvermouse said:
death penalty for stealing a car?
Two people are dead after being shot by an off-duty police officer in a condo parking lot in Takoma Park, Maryland early Wednesday morning, police said.
I had to think on this awhile. I was conflicted. While it's true that the thieves were stealing a portion of the car-owners life, the time and effort that was put into earning the money, it seems terrible that they lose their life over "just a car". However, calling this a "death penalty"? It seems wrong terminology. While there is actually a history of imposed penalties like this, eg. steal a horse? get hanged, to call this "death penalty" seems improper.
My questions would be as follows:
Did the officer, off-duty or not, give notice to the perpetrators of the crime? In other words, did he state clearly "Stop or I'll shoot."?
If so, was the message received, or could have been reasonably expected to have been received by the perpetrators of the crime? It makes a difference whether or not they were outside the vehicle and should have heard the warning, or were inside already, assuming they were driving it away and not loading it on a roll-off truck.
If they were able to hear the warning, and chose NOT to cease and desist, then I feel bad for their families, and for the officer whose hand they forced with their actions. They made a choice to die rather than to give up their ill-gotten prize.
Suicide by cop would be a more appropriate description than death penalty for stealing a car.
On the other hand is the question of when is use of deadly force appropriate? Was the officer in fear of his own life? Were they pointing a weapon at him?
I guess @YankeeMan would be our resident guru on this subject.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Interesting. It does seem that his use of force was likely inappropriate. I must say that I disagree with Maryland's "Duty to retreat" stance, though. Sounds like a good way to get cornered and killed. I graduated High School in Texas, and much prefer the "Stand your ground" approach to defending oneself.
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I didn’t take you for a liberal.....
"Under extraordinary circumstances, for urgent cases, the State should set aside some resources to assist certain unfortunate people, to help them adjust to changing conditions"
Frédéric Bastiat
This sounds like what welfare was supposed to be.
Tax rate for individuals is higher than corporate
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
Welfare wasn’t ever designed to be a permanent income solution. The Brits have that, along with a LOT of other “free” handouts like health care & housing, and it has evolved into a “gimme” society. Why work if Betty’s gonna give you a place to live, pay you, and take care if you? Zero incentive. Wait for it here.....
So you agree with the quote?
The **** government is going to pander to the lowest common denominator to get the votes it needs to stay in power, common sense be damned.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
To a point. Assistance should be precisely that. Assistance. Not a form of subsistence.
finally Stubble has reason to go to Disneyland:
https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/Disneyland-viral-fried-pickle-corn-dog-experience-16073287.php
"Republicans ramp up attacks on corporations over Georgia voting law, threaten ‘consequences’"
gee, what are they gonna do, go along with the Dems and vote to raise the corporate tax rate up to what low income humans have to pay?
Hard pass....LOL!
because he is famous?
Tiger Woods was driving about 40 m.p.h. over the speed limit when he crashed his car in February, according to the Los Angeles County sheriff.
Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:14 PM EST
Woods was not cited for driving too fast and no criminal charges will be filed, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said.
The same sheriff who would deny you your right to own and carry guns.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
533,000,000 facebook users data posted on line for free... before Facebook had a chance to sell the data! What a rip!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-03/facebook-data-on-533-million-users-leaked-business-insider
Course, nuthin beats the Equifax hack:
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3444488/equifax-data-breach-faq-what-happened-who-was-affected-what-was-the-impact.html
death penalty for stealing a car?
Two people are dead after being shot by an off-duty police officer in a condo parking lot in Takoma Park, Maryland early Wednesday morning, police said.
Must have been a nice car.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
I was shocked to see hauled out Tiger, all Oxy'd up on the TV giving an interview before the trophy presentation. His face was red, eyes glazed up, slurring words and what does he go and do...plows off a cliff. I think he finally learned his DWI lesson sadly.
sigh
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/GlobalTrends_2040.pdf
I had to think on this awhile. I was conflicted. While it's true that the thieves were stealing a portion of the car-owners life, the time and effort that was put into earning the money, it seems terrible that they lose their life over "just a car". However, calling this a "death penalty"? It seems wrong terminology. While there is actually a history of imposed penalties like this, eg. steal a horse? get hanged, to call this "death penalty" seems improper.
My questions would be as follows:
Did the officer, off-duty or not, give notice to the perpetrators of the crime? In other words, did he state clearly "Stop or I'll shoot."?
If so, was the message received, or could have been reasonably expected to have been received by the perpetrators of the crime? It makes a difference whether or not they were outside the vehicle and should have heard the warning, or were inside already, assuming they were driving it away and not loading it on a roll-off truck.
If they were able to hear the warning, and chose NOT to cease and desist, then I feel bad for their families, and for the officer whose hand they forced with their actions. They made a choice to die rather than to give up their ill-gotten prize.
Suicide by cop would be a more appropriate description than death penalty for stealing a car.
On the other hand is the question of when is use of deadly force appropriate? Was the officer in fear of his own life? Were they pointing a weapon at him?
I guess @YankeeMan would be our resident guru on this subject.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
You really want to lower the crime rate? Public executions and end parole for second offenders.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
He said he 'thought' they were trying to break into a car. He shot them when they fled. More here. Seems to me not an occasion for the use of deadly force.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/double-fatal-shooting-off-duty-pentagon-officer-shoots-alleged-robbers/65-3cb925fa-cb94-4de1-a674-30925a7bb41b
I think the punishment fit the crime. Two less dirtbags walking around committing crimes. It was a public service.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
Interesting. It does seem that his use of force was likely inappropriate. I must say that I disagree with Maryland's "Duty to retreat" stance, though. Sounds like a good way to get cornered and killed. I graduated High School in Texas, and much prefer the "Stand your ground" approach to defending oneself.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Someone actually said this...and, what’s worse, is idiots will agree with it.
People who know jack **** about guns should just keep their mouths shut about guns. They make themselves look really **** stupid.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
The problem is they only look really stupid to the people who know about guns.
MOW badge received.
Cause a Glock isn't a semi automatic weapon??
And can I see someone pump 800 rounds through an AR in a minute?
At night.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
And those who understand guns are the minority.
You just gotta have the 800 rd magazine...
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.