Looking For A Cellophane Wrapper Source

TX98Z28

Well got some gars I want to put in new cellophane wrappers that came naked. I learned an expensive lesson that removing cello to age or breathe better isn't the best thing to do for me...almost all went flat quick and are goat @ss from last year, they're getting pitched. Really pisses me off but it is what it is.

I've searched around for hours and can't find a source. Need 48, 52, 54, ring gauges length min. 7in. Theres got to be someone who sells them, I just can't find them.

Thanks Fellas   

NorCalR1

https://www.etsy.com/listing/514388245/100-pieces-cigar-cellophane-bags-size


Found these not sure if it will work for you 

peter4jc

I'm not doubting your experience there @TX98Z28, but I've never heard of that happening to non-cello'd sticks or had it happen here.  This should open a good discussion.

ForMud

Just use a sleeve off a another one after you smoke it.

TX98Z28

peter4jc said:

I'm not doubting your experience there @TX98Z28, but I've never heard of that happening to non-cello'd sticks or had it happen here.  This should open a good discussion.

Think this might come down to full bodied vs say medium body, age on tobacco pre rolled/post rolled age before released. I’m not doubting it’s not possible but seems that’s the way it goes in my coolidor. The naked ones are going flat while the ones in cello are fine. Basically I don’t want the 15+ Padron 50ths along with some other expensive stuff going flat on me. Guess I’ve found keeping in cello somewhat slows down the aging process almost as if it acts like a preservation capsule.

TX98Z28

ForMud said:

Just use a sleeve off a another one after you smoke it.

I’ve pitched all those plus been smoking a lot of naked ones as they are going flat on me. Literally about to pitch 100 cigars their just gone all none cellophaned...

Wylaff

Check your humidity. If they are going flat, you may be running a bit dry. Cigars in cello will hold their internal humidity a bit longer than the naked ones.

TX98Z28

@Wylaff Humidity is 65% does not fluctuate. Ive got 2 whole bricks 40 packs of 65% Bovedas in there plus 2 pounds 65% Heartfelt beads, complete overkill. Temperature max 75* During Summer days 71* at night. Winter 65*-68* still steady at 65%RH. 

Wylaff

By my own preference, 65% is decent for aging (cubans) but low for smoking. Tends to produce a more cigarette-like flavor and less of the lovely tobacco. Maybe toss a couple of the "flat" stick into a ziplock with a 69 and see if they recover to your liking.

TX98Z28

Wylaff said:

By my own preference, 65% is decent for aging (cubans) but low for smoking. Tends to produce a more cigarette-like flavor and less of the lovely tobacco. Maybe toss a couple of the "flat" stick into a ziplock with a 69 and see if they recover to your liking.

Thanks for the tip, I’ll give it a try but almost certain their gone. Another reason for me personally wanting to add cello on some of my expensive sticks is me unintentionally snagging a wrapper. It has happened to a couple sticks already. I even wear nitrile gloves when rotating, moving stuff around but I don’t like wearing those gloves long as my hands naturally sweat, prefer no gloves but got my finger nails trimmed to a certain length for guitar playing hense the wrapper snagging.

Patrickbrick

Simply put some cigars age well and others don't.  The cello has nothing to do with it, it was just the cigars.  

TX98Z28

Thanks guys for the responses, will take everything into consideration. 

webmost

Could try re-wrapping them, rather than tossing them. Easy enough to do.

Bob_Luken

You described a very attentively maintained coolidor. As for me, I have no idea what my min or max temps are yearly, but you do. I used to be real particular about my coolers, but now, half a decade later, they do fine with little to no attention from me at all, and all sticks smoke great, naked or cello'd. Something's not right. Sticks that you knew were good a year ago shouldn't be goat @ss now, just because the cello is off. I'm wondering if there isn't something that has altered your sense of taste and smell. And can you identify to us which cigars that have changed the most? And another thing you might try,.... go buy the same cigars from a local B&M, and smoke 'em to see what differences you have between yours and the ones from the B&M.  

Yakster

I've had wrapper damage and mold on unwrapped cigars so I keep them in cello, but I've never thought of wrapping my naked sticks up.

Good luck.

TX98Z28

Well just bought a bunch of 54x9 and 50x9 from @NorCalR1 recommendation. They ship from Honduras. Will be great to put some of the naked ones in the cello from easy labeling, always hate wrapping the white bands around them trying to get them tight enough.
@Bob_Luken Some are MOW Ruination torpedos good yard gars used to be real peppery etc now there just pure goat @ss.
The CPCS I smoked yesterday seemed way off almost flat, I bought 3 6packs of those not even a year ago. CORO toros used to be good cigars now there just way off flat, we’re good last year. Have a good amount of the naked higher end Tatjuate from a very well respected member on here, they taste way off to me now, basically flat.

To be honest my taste has been off some but this is down right gross. I’ll dig around and smoke a newer higher end naked cigar today here after done herbicide the yard and see how it is.

Bob_Luken

Hold on! Were you spraying herbicide before your cigars went flat? 

TX98Z28

No, plus I wear a respirator.

Bob_Luken

And are ALL the cello'd stick just dandy or do some of them seem "flat" too? 

TX98Z28

All the ones I have smoked so far in cello have been fine so far, there’s A LOT of sticks I haven’t smoked so can’t be 100% certain. On the same note some naked are fine but usually those have been full bodied behemoths.

Bob_Luken

Hmmm, somebody else take over this interrogation please. I gotta go to work. 

Wylaff

Maybe the plastic in your cooler is breaking down due to chemical residue from the herbicides... I dunno man. Maybe it's in your head. Maybe you need to get your carbon monoxide detectors tested.

TX98Z28

Well this one is really good, not expensive and not flat. Guess @Patrickbrick was right on with some cigars just don’t age well. I looked back and those in question have over 5 years on them from me purchasing them. My sinuses are messed up probably palate too, being blowing some blood out of one nostril, very strange. That Nasonex spray for allergies is probably the culprit. My cello is coming for what I need it for, Thanks again @NorCalR1 for finding a source. Now the witch hunts over @Bob_Luken LOL

peter4jc

I like flat cigars, especially Padrons, if you come across any more.

Bob_Luken

So, you got sinus trouble? 

TX98Z28

@peter4jc If my Padrons go flat I might have to be hospitalized LOL

Seriously though do you have any idea how long the Padron 50th Anniversary's should keep good for in the long run? Think the tobacco in them is aged 10 years prior to rolling, they are still quite full bodied all around. Some say Padrons don't age well, whats your recommendation for this particular cigar?   

Bob_Luken

What's wrong with me? The FIRST question I ask when guys start complaining about their cigars not tasting right is,.... "Do you have sinus trouble or a cold?" None of y'all said anything about it either. We are slippin'. I guess it's the cello on, cello off thing that blinded us to the obvious. 

And you! @TX98Z28 I'm not done interrogating you. When did you know? Did you know about your messed up sinuses two days ago when you started this thread? Did you know about your messed up sinuses yesterday? Do you know or do you not know that messed up sinuses will affect your sense of taste and smell?

peter4jc

Careful, Bob... they're going to accuse you of impersonating the Coffee Curmudgeon, aka, the adorable me.

90+_Irishman

I havent really aged Padron’s before as you said, they are already pretty well aged when released. That said I have an 80th double perfecto that I’ve been hanging onto for 3 years now and a 50th with a year on it. I did have a 90th Maduro that tasted young and would be interested to see if they improve with age. Had a 45th maduro that was perfect as is and an 85th Maduro that was gold as is. I think Padron in general just is one of the few that would see little benefit in age, and if you do then 1-2 years is about ideal. Just my 2 cents though. 

Rhamlin

Whoever said Padrons don’t age well is wrong.they age spectacularly  

jgibv

It ain’t the cello bro....it’s the nasonex.  Google “steroid nasal spray side effects” or “nasonex sense of smell.” 

Talk your doctor about the problem and alternative medication options.

ive been down this road myself, the problem ain’t the cigars