@Amos_Umwhat said:
The second was a descriptive term for what may be going on with this, oppositional compliance. It's like when a child thinks "I'll show You", and carries out an absurd interpretation of their parent's instruction.
I don't know about the other agencies, but Peter hegseth explicitly told all of his four-star generals that he they were not to use any of the banned words on the bandwid list. Amongst those words are the terms black, segregation, and equality, racial inequity, racism, racial equality, Men, exclusion, diversity, cultural heritage, Anti-Racism, and belong.
Those are all words that we are not to use in the government.
Tell me exactly how you would tell the story of the Tuskegee airmen without using any of those words. Of course they deleted the page. What else were they going to do? Of course they deleted the Jackie Robinson page. How do you tell his story?
Never mind the fact that it is apparently grounds for firing to mention any " topics that have received widespread or critical media," topics that have received recent attention from Congress," and "topics of federal investigations."
But yeah, opposition compliance is the real problem. ✅
Thank you, Frank. By carefully cherry picking portions of the post, and ignoring the overall sentiment and then assuming a disdainful demeanor you have aptly demonstrated in real time the very concepts I was discussing. This is indeed what it looks like.
I couldn't have done it better myself.
The message ignored, the reaction inflammatory. Perfect.
Oppostional compliance in action.
😂 Good one Steve. I didn't cherry pick "parts" as much as i chose to respond to one particular point....in it's entirety. Didn't realize that doing so isn't fair game, especially since I had nothing substantive to offer regarding your overall message.
There is no evidence to support the oppositional compliance theory whatsoever, and I would argue that it's not what happened at all. In fact, there is much evidence to the contrary.
And since we are supposing theories that have no basis in fact, I'll offer one of my own. The issues of Jackie Robinson and the Tuskegee airmen may have been brought up to elected and appointed leaders, and those leaders may have instructed the departments and agencies to delete them anyways, as a sort of toe-dipping strategy designed to gauge the public's palate for such censorship and whitewashing.
My guess is that neither oppositional al compliance nor toe-dipping were in play, at least in the DoD, where military professionals follow lawful orders.
For as much as you're offended about my thoughts, I'm offended by the assertion that military professionals engage in the childish actions that you offered.
By my count, everyone's panties are equally twisted, so we can now move on.
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
@Amos_Umwhat said:
The second was a descriptive term for what may be going on with this, oppositional compliance. It's like when a child thinks "I'll show You", and carries out an absurd interpretation of their parent's instruction.
I don't know about the other agencies, but Peter hegseth explicitly told all of his four-star generals that he they were not to use any of the banned words on the bandwid list. Amongst those words are the terms black, segregation, and equality, racial inequity, racism, racial equality, Men, exclusion, diversity, cultural heritage, Anti-Racism, and belong.
Those are all words that we are not to use in the government.
Tell me exactly how you would tell the story of the Tuskegee airmen without using any of those words. Of course they deleted the page. What else were they going to do? Of course they deleted the Jackie Robinson page. How do you tell his story?
Never mind the fact that it is apparently grounds for firing to mention any " topics that have received widespread or critical media," topics that have received recent attention from Congress," and "topics of federal investigations."
But yeah, opposition compliance is the real problem. ✅
Thank you, Frank. By carefully cherry picking portions of the post, and ignoring the overall sentiment and then assuming a disdainful demeanor you have aptly demonstrated in real time the very concepts I was discussing. This is indeed what it looks like.
I couldn't have done it better myself.
The message ignored, the reaction inflammatory. Perfect.
Oppostional compliance in action.
😂 Good one Steve...I had nothing substantive to offer regarding your overall message.
By my count, everyone's panties are equally twisted, so we can now move on.
On at least this much, we can certainly agree.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
@Amos_Umwhat said:
The second was a descriptive term for what may be going on with this, oppositional compliance. It's like when a child thinks "I'll show You", and carries out an absurd interpretation of their parent's instruction.
I don't know about the other agencies, but Peter hegseth explicitly told all of his four-star generals that he they were not to use any of the banned words on the bandwid list. Amongst those words are the terms black, segregation, and equality, racial inequity, racism, racial equality, Men, exclusion, diversity, cultural heritage, Anti-Racism, and belong.
Those are all words that we are not to use in the government.
Tell me exactly how you would tell the story of the Tuskegee airmen without using any of those words. Of course they deleted the page. What else were they going to do? Of course they deleted the Jackie Robinson page. How do you tell his story?
Never mind the fact that it is apparently grounds for firing to mention any " topics that have received widespread or critical media," topics that have received recent attention from Congress," and "topics of federal investigations."
But yeah, opposition compliance is the real problem. ✅
Thank you, Frank. By carefully cherry picking portions of the post, and ignoring the overall sentiment and then assuming a disdainful demeanor you have aptly demonstrated in real time the very concepts I was discussing. This is indeed what it looks like.
I couldn't have done it better myself.
The message ignored, the reaction inflammatory. Perfect.
Oppostional compliance in action.
😂 Good one Steve...I had nothing substantive to offer regarding your overall message.
By my count, everyone's panties are equally twisted, so we can now move on.
On at least this much, we can certainly agree.
Clearly not on the second point 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
US political rhetoric: Analysis of 8 million speeches shows increased reliance on personal beliefs over facts
by University of Konstanz
Discussion of "alternative facts" has gained sad notoriety in US politics. Yet the question has been around much longer: How do people conduct political debates—is the focus more on facts or personal opinions? In the journal Nature Human Behaviour, a team of international researchers led by the Cluster of Excellence "The Politics of Inequality" looked into the matter.
The researchers examined political rhetoric in 8 million speeches by members of the US Congress between 1879 and 2022 to see if the focus of their language was more on data and facts or personal convictions and subjective interpretations.
The team noticed a significant decline in the use of evidence-based political rhetoric since the 1970s, with a historic low in the present. Over the same period, the researchers observed a decline in legislative productivity, an increase in the political polarization of both political parties as well as growing economic inequality in the US.
The man's a genius I say:
The latest chapter in this ongoing farce came when Trump showed us a picture of Abrego Garcia’s hand, with the initials MS13 tattooed apparently by an artist who has found a way to use a typesetter instead of a needle.
And these are magical tattoos, because the Mediate article includes a photo of Abrego Garcia’s hand taken during his meeting with Senator Van Hollen in which the letters are no longer present.
I mean I love the WTF above hahaha. That means one of two things. Either someone is like, "that's so true, WTF" or someone is like, "WTF are you calling out the American public for following Orange Jesus. Everyone should just let him do what he wants because he's Orange Jesus."
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
@VegasFrank said:
I mean I love the WTF above hahaha. That means one of two things. Either someone is like, "that's so true, WTF" or someone is like, "WTF are you calling out the American public for following Orange Jesus. Everyone should just let him do what he wants because he's Orange Jesus."
@silvermouse said:
The man's a genius I say:
The latest chapter in this ongoing farce came when Trump showed us a picture of Abrego Garcia’s hand, with the initials MS13 tattooed apparently by an artist who has found a way to use a typesetter instead of a needle.
And these are magical tattoos, because the Mediate article includes a photo of Abrego Garcia’s hand taken during his meeting with Senator Van Hollen in which the letters are no longer present.
Edward you can't really be serious with your interpretation, are you? They are clearly not tattoos, nor does anyone claim they are. They are photoshopped onto the picture to give an interpretation of the symbolic meaning of each of the actual tattoos on his fingers. I'm not even going to bother posting a link to an article.
This is exhibit 467,562,798 of TDS. What's next? JD Vance poisoned the Pope?
@dirtdude said:
Three and a half years of this
and this
will get you a simple head shake on this stunt
I don't know what those first two depict.
The third one is the president of the United States intentionally lying to the American public.
I don't care how you justify it Randy, because justifying it is the sad part.
I hope you can find love someday.
Oh Frank I have plenty of love to go around. If you don't know the first two pics you really are out of touch. I understand with your livelihood buried in the middle of a trillion dollar DOD budget that you don't see the 3 1/2 year flood of migration as competitors for your job or your housing but many Americans do. That's one reason OJ was hired to clean it up. Only been less than 100 days. Get used to it.
@dirtdude said:
Three and a half years of this
and this
will get you a simple head shake on this stunt
I don't know what those first two depict.
The third one is the president of the United States intentionally lying to the American public.
I don't care how you justify it Randy, because justifying it is the sad part.
I hope you can find love someday.
Oh Frank I have plenty of love to go around. If you don't know the first two pics you really are out of touch. I understand with your livelihood buried in the middle of a trillion dollar DOD budget that you don't see the 3 1/2 year flood of migration as competitors for your job or your housing but many Americans do. That's one reason OJ was hired to clean it up. Only been less than 100 days. Get used to it.
Ruh roh Raggy, someone's getting testy and talking about someone else's job in a disparaging way.
Yep, you sure do have love buddy. Love for hatred.
Everybody knows that those pictures were staged. One was taken in Guatemala . The other one was taken at Guadalajara . In both cases, participants were paid to line up in the streets.
This is the same as the MS-13 picture or the hurricane map showing that the panhandle was in danger.
You show me one of those people in one of those pictures that ended up across the border and I'll send you 100 cigars.
Keep on loving buddy. You're pretty good at it.
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
@dirtdude said:
Pics coming, load up those dog rockets.
I mean I'm happy to send you cigars, but I need actual proof, and your track record with pictures over these last 5 posts, forgive me if I don't just believe whatever gods and jpegs you have on your phone. 😂
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
Well Francis, the pics you question I personally selected from leftist rags like The Atlantic and Reuters. Also I didn't say anything disparaging about your job, stated plainly that you are insulated from what many Americans face. I have no hate for anyone Frank, actually enjoying life watching OJ take down the leftist bs that has been installed the past 4 years...minus 100 days.
Cheers
Well I stand corrected Frankie, if you say not a single migrant crossed the border illegally then it must be so. By the way, I'm used to Presidents, actually all politicians lying to me.
@dirtdude said:
Well I stand corrected Frankie, if you say not a single migrant crossed the border illegally then it must be so. By the way, I'm used to Presidents, actually all politicians lying to me.
Lol okay Randy. Have a nice day.
@ScotchnSmoke sux lots of large wéiners. And tons of small ones.
Once upon a time, the Democrats all were for exactly the things that are happening under Trump. The difference is that Trump and Musk are actually doing the things that the Democrats promised to do, and didn't.
Edward is right, voter derangement syndrome is real, and small wonder.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Oh Frankie, I'm a little disappointed you couldn't pull the trigger to sell your point, you alluded to it with multiple mentions of hate but you have to say it, it's not going to say itself.
Hush now, Jeff, don't be rude. Frank's teaching us about love by using Orange Jesus as an example. Funny, I didn't even know there was an orange Jesus. Frank knows everything.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
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😂 Good one Steve. I didn't cherry pick "parts" as much as i chose to respond to one particular point....in it's entirety. Didn't realize that doing so isn't fair game, especially since I had nothing substantive to offer regarding your overall message.
There is no evidence to support the oppositional compliance theory whatsoever, and I would argue that it's not what happened at all. In fact, there is much evidence to the contrary.
And since we are supposing theories that have no basis in fact, I'll offer one of my own. The issues of Jackie Robinson and the Tuskegee airmen may have been brought up to elected and appointed leaders, and those leaders may have instructed the departments and agencies to delete them anyways, as a sort of toe-dipping strategy designed to gauge the public's palate for such censorship and whitewashing.
My guess is that neither oppositional al compliance nor toe-dipping were in play, at least in the DoD, where military professionals follow lawful orders.
For as much as you're offended about my thoughts, I'm offended by the assertion that military professionals engage in the childish actions that you offered.
By my count, everyone's panties are equally twisted, so we can now move on.
On at least this much, we can certainly agree.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Clearly not on the second point 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In case anyone was wondering, the Harriet Tubman page was edited with a couple additions and then back up in entirety by April 7th.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nps-harriet-tubman-underground-railroad/
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
US political rhetoric: Analysis of 8 million speeches shows increased reliance on personal beliefs over facts
by University of Konstanz
Discussion of "alternative facts" has gained sad notoriety in US politics. Yet the question has been around much longer: How do people conduct political debates—is the focus more on facts or personal opinions? In the journal Nature Human Behaviour, a team of international researchers led by the Cluster of Excellence "The Politics of Inequality" looked into the matter.
The researchers examined political rhetoric in 8 million speeches by members of the US Congress between 1879 and 2022 to see if the focus of their language was more on data and facts or personal convictions and subjective interpretations.
The team noticed a significant decline in the use of evidence-based political rhetoric since the 1970s, with a historic low in the present. Over the same period, the researchers observed a decline in legislative productivity, an increase in the political polarization of both political parties as well as growing economic inequality in the US.
https://phys.org/news/2025-04-political-rhetoric-analysis-million-speeches.html
The man's a genius I say:
The latest chapter in this ongoing farce came when Trump showed us a picture of Abrego Garcia’s hand, with the initials MS13 tattooed apparently by an artist who has found a way to use a typesetter instead of a needle.
And these are magical tattoos, because the Mediate article includes a photo of Abrego Garcia’s hand taken during his meeting with Senator Van Hollen in which the letters are no longer present.
I blame the American public for this. They let him get away with this BS.
I mean I love the WTF above hahaha. That means one of two things. Either someone is like, "that's so true, WTF" or someone is like, "WTF are you calling out the American public for following Orange Jesus. Everyone should just let him do what he wants because he's Orange Jesus."
TDS is strong with this one ☝️
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
https://www.facebook.com/NicholasScottPeterson/videos/1969333060252804/?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=pJuSMe1lMJQsnAng
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Exhibit A on letting him get away with it ☝️
Three and a half years of this
and this
will get you a simple head shake on this stunt
“Orange Jesus” …😂😂😂 The OJ reference is uncanny.
A good cigar and whiskey solve most problems.
I don't know what those first two depict.
The third one is the president of the United States intentionally lying to the American public.
I don't care how you justify it Randy, because justifying it is the sad part.
I hope you can find love someday.
A good cigar and whiskey solve most problems.
Edward you can't really be serious with your interpretation, are you? They are clearly not tattoos, nor does anyone claim they are. They are photoshopped onto the picture to give an interpretation of the symbolic meaning of each of the actual tattoos on his fingers. I'm not even going to bother posting a link to an article.
This is exhibit 467,562,798 of TDS. What's next? JD Vance poisoned the Pope?
Oh Frank I have plenty of love to go around. If you don't know the first two pics you really are out of touch. I understand with your livelihood buried in the middle of a trillion dollar DOD budget that you don't see the 3 1/2 year flood of migration as competitors for your job or your housing but many Americans do. That's one reason OJ was hired to clean it up. Only been less than 100 days. Get used to it.
Ruh roh Raggy, someone's getting testy and talking about someone else's job in a disparaging way.
Yep, you sure do have love buddy. Love for hatred.
Everybody knows that those pictures were staged. One was taken in Guatemala . The other one was taken at Guadalajara . In both cases, participants were paid to line up in the streets.
This is the same as the MS-13 picture or the hurricane map showing that the panhandle was in danger.
You show me one of those people in one of those pictures that ended up across the border and I'll send you 100 cigars.
Keep on loving buddy. You're pretty good at it.
Pics coming, load up those dog rockets.
I mean I'm happy to send you cigars, but I need actual proof, and your track record with pictures over these last 5 posts, forgive me if I don't just believe whatever gods and jpegs you have on your phone. 😂
Ruh roh now I'm getting flagged. Looks like there's extra love to go around for me.
Well Francis, the pics you question I personally selected from leftist rags like The Atlantic and Reuters. Also I didn't say anything disparaging about your job, stated plainly that you are insulated from what many Americans face. I have no hate for anyone Frank, actually enjoying life watching OJ take down the leftist bs that has been installed the past 4 years...minus 100 days.
Cheers
Oh nevermind. Not worth it. Have a nice day, and good luck with your crusade.
Well I stand corrected Frankie, if you say not a single migrant crossed the border illegally then it must be so. By the way, I'm used to Presidents, actually all politicians lying to me.
true enough, DD. Starting in the primaries, making promises they know they can't keep. It is not TDS, rather it is voter derangement syndrome.
Lol okay Randy. Have a nice day.
Once upon a time, the Democrats all were for exactly the things that are happening under Trump. The difference is that Trump and Musk are actually doing the things that the Democrats promised to do, and didn't.
Edward is right, voter derangement syndrome is real, and small wonder.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Oh Frankie, I'm a little disappointed you couldn't pull the trigger to sell your point, you alluded to it with multiple mentions of hate but you have to say it, it's not going to say itself.
Political Thread…….
A good cigar and whiskey solve most problems.
Hush now, Jeff, don't be rude. Frank's teaching us about love by using Orange Jesus as an example. Funny, I didn't even know there was an orange Jesus. Frank knows everything.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain