California Wildfires WTF
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Semantics will matter when it comes down to insurance paying out. Many fire policies won’t pay for arson.
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I feel bad for those that don't have insurance.
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@dirtdude said:
I feel bad for those that don't have insurance.All the big companies canceled most of the fire insurance policies a number of months ago. They looked at the previous winter that was super wet which created a bunch of growth, and then the super dry summer to follow it. Then they took a look at the side of those hills, and said, nah.
Maybe some of those actuaries could actually put their powers of evil towards something good and let everybody else know what was going to happen.
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@Rdp77 said:
Semantics will matter when it comes down to insurance paying out. Many fire policies won’t pay for arson.Interesting. I wonder if it’s arson by others or policy holder that constitutes a non payout. I think, historically, the later.
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@OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
@Rdp77 said:
Semantics will matter when it comes down to insurance paying out. Many fire policies won’t pay for arson.Interesting. I wonder if it’s arson by others or policy holder that constitutes a non payout. I think, historically, the later.
It all depends on how the policy is written up. With the way insurance companies across the country have been making up reasons to cancel policies…nothing about the crooked sonsabitches would surprise me.
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For the record, once any possible way a fire gets started, in Santa Anna winds above 30+ mph it becomes extremely low odds for containment. Doesn’t help when the winds get above 50 mph. The embers just fly for miles lighting anything combustible and multiplies exponentially.
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Here we go…big ambulance chasers construction companies lining up.
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@OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
Here we go…big ambulance chasers construction companies lining up.I guess the saying is true… when there's blood in the street, time to buy real estate.
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Newsom says it's illegal to sell or was it buy?
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@OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2025/01/the-la-fires-show-a-need-to-rethink-our-wildland-firefighting.html??cutoff=true&utm_source=AdaptiveMailer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7014N000001SnimQAC&utm_term=00vQK000000Kzs9YAC&org=1674&lvl=100&ite=293756&lea=2313799&ctr=0&par=1&trk=I had wondered about that, too. It is now more than apparent that the failure to do the small burns at appropriate times has led to a condition where much of the state is basically a tinderbox, and many voices are calling for a return to controlled burns.
But, is it too late?
Maybe not too late, as something must be done, but it sure seems like it would be a nightmare to coordinate with any degree of safety.
And then, while the many sources in this loose widespread network have historically done an admirable job of supporting each other, what would happen if someone tried to coordinate it as a whole? Would we end up with bureaucratic infighting hindering a system that sort of works?
Just wondering. Sort of like the situation where Insurance has turned the art of medicine into an industry, making our health a commodity rather than a goal to be attained by the individual. Sorry, rambling. Coffee will help focus, in time. I hope.
One great point he made, it all rests on the hard work of people who are often underserved and underpaid. Amen to that.
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@Amos_Umwhat said:
@OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2025/01/the-la-fires-show-a-need-to-rethink-our-wildland-firefighting.html??cutoff=true&utm_source=AdaptiveMailer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7014N000001SnimQAC&utm_term=00vQK000000Kzs9YAC&org=1674&lvl=100&ite=293756&lea=2313799&ctr=0&par=1&trk=I had wondered about that, too. It is now more than apparent that the failure to do the small burns at appropriate times has led to a condition where much of the state is basically a tinderbox, and many voices are calling for a return to controlled burns.
But, is it too late?
Maybe not too late, as something must be done, but it sure seems like it would be a nightmare to coordinate with any degree of safety.
And then, while the many sources in this loose widespread network have historically done an admirable job of supporting each other, what would happen if someone tried to coordinate it as a whole? Would we end up with bureaucratic infighting hindering a system that sort of works?
Just wondering. Sort of like the situation where Insurance has turned the art of medicine into an industry, making our health a commodity rather than a goal to be attained by the individual. Sorry, rambling. Coffee will help focus, in time. I hope.
One great point he made, it all rests on the hard work of people who are often underserved and underpaid. Amen to that.
I don’t think it’s too late. Managing the task, I agree, would be monumental and extremely expensive. Taxpayers would take the brunt of the costs. I’m sure certain funds would need to be diverted from other programs as well. Possibly, joint efforts from many municipalities, working together, to hit critical areas. Followed up with maintenance of these areas. Big money for sure. All I know is southern California is a desert. We have Santa Anna winds that are formidable forces of nature every year that aren’t going away. We’ve had several large scale fires that have decimated communities throughout the state over the past 20 years. Water is a scarce resource. Any preventative maintenance that could help mitigate and reduce the rapid spread of fire is worth considering.
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https://apple.news/ALjJsKsJGTJC9ezd-mJds0A
Here’s another problem they’re dealing with.
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@Rdp77 said:
https://apple.news/ALjJsKsJGTJC9ezd-mJds0AHere’s another problem they’re dealing with.
Dang…431,000 teslas in LA county 😳
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And in Moss Landing, Monterey County next to the Elkhorn Slough wildlife sanctuary where I like to kayak one of the battery energy storage plants on the site of the old coal fired power generation plant caught fire.
A fire rages out of control at the Vistra battery storage plant, one of the world’s largest, in Moss Landing, Calif., on Thursday, Jan. 16, 2025. (Doug Duran/Bay Area News Group)
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As of today.,…
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@Hawks said:
My WTF, newest Chris. @Olekingcole You have a patio and a solo stove. I seent it in your photos. I have a dirt patch in the back"yard". We go to your place. But...
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Summer teeth?
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@Brokegunner said:
@Hawks said:
My WTF, newest Chris. @Olekingcole You have a patio and a solo stove. I seent it in your photos. I have a dirt patch in the back"yard". We go to your place. But...
Have cigars, will travel. @OutdoorsSmoke_21191 @Yakster @Brokegunner @WaterNerd
Let's go!Edit for names.
If there was a good place for a Commie-fornia herf, it would be at my place! I've got 10 cabins and room for 70 RVs. We even got wimmin here but most of them have summer teeth.
March and October are the best months. Let's do this.
This is great. What’s next????
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Wrong, summer teeth, some are here, some are there
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Some background that I found interesting;
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@peter4jc said:
Some background that I found interesting;Watched that. I've never heard of this fellow, but he seems to make some very good points. I've read that the main thing that brought the Roman Empire down was the fact that the Roman government ceased to take care of the center and focused all of its time and energy on the fringes of the empire. Seems to be happening here, too.
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https://youtu.be/ES7d7gWxuJg?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/JSFFxLONQYU?si=JvhbNglhOql3QG_3