Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
im a believer in this. I've been smoking for two years now and all last year I got the same thing you did. It wasn't until I started learning how to retrohaler that I really found flavora I didn't notice before. For me I feel that a 1 to 2 puffs a minute is ideal. Of course, every cigar is different
what really helped me develop my palate was actively tasting everything that i ate and actively smelling everything i smelled.
...not just in cigars.
dont lead a passive flavor/smell life.
If you are eating or drinking something, anything, make sure to take the time to understand what you are tasting. when you walk into a leather shop, take a deep smell of it. understand it.
i mean, how do you expect to recognize mushrooms, or stone fruit, or leather, or coffee, or any other flavor in a cigar if you have no reference point?
For me I get more medleys then anything...being a chef I try to find each flavor but really it's the all over "meal" I find intriguing. Take for instance the opus x... I find a lot of raisins and dried fruit but still couldn't tell you what fruit besides the raisins
Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
I think the key is to try different brands and blends. I still can not identify different fruits as Lee said or different subtle variations. I think there is a big difference between mild, medium and full cigars. To me, some blenders have a consistent flavor. Try different brands and strengths and you should notice a difference.
Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
My ability to distinguish exact flavors has not improved much over time. I don't have the ability to execute precise detection of the differences in flavors. I can taste differences. But, I can't necessarily separate them and label the differences. I wish I could but, instead I have a very basic plan to find cigars that are most enjoyable to me so I can re-visit them in the future.
if you are new to the world-of-cigars and haven't seen this thread yet, give it a read.
the first post by kuzi has some phenomenal information & insights
I am relatively new to drinking (~4 years -- I was a teetotaler) and learning the nuances there helped me a metric butt ton w/ how much I appreciate cigars. For me, beer took nearly 6 months to really truly appreciate. I can remember the feeling when I finally tuned a corner and enjoyed a bottle. I can also remember the feeling when I enjoyed a wine flight. Thankfully cigars have not been nearly that long of an effor to get to the point of enjoyment.
Your post hits it right on the head for me.
As a youth, I would rush in, rush thorough my food (because an epic ride was waiting, or a climb, or a fishing trip, etc), and would seemingly strive for speed/efficiency overall.
As I am getting a bit longer in the tooth (I have several kids, all still in school), I am enjoying the quiet time I can create. I have learned to savor my food, to savor my drink, and savor my smoke.
Commenting here to add another voice/+1 to paying attention to nuances and flavors of things.
-Jay
“There’ll be two dates on your tombstone and all your friends will read ’em but all that’s gonna matter is that little dash between ’em.” -Kevin Welch
Just read the OP. The Alex Svenson quote describing a typical lifecycle of a new cigar fanatic was one of those where I just kept nodding to myself and saying "exactly." Great stuff. Thanks.
Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
I have found that smoking Cigars has changed my palate considerably.
Before Cigars I could not begin to tell you what was in different beers
or wines or even stand the taste of straight whiskey/bourbon. Now with
just a year and some change under my belt I've found that I can taste
and appreciate a whole world of things a lot more than I previously
could.
But it definitely takes time, @Bigshizza was probably my
biggest help in developing my palate. He has hit me with a few cigars
that really challenged me. I've probably tried maybe 250 - 300 different
sticks total.
Within the first couple months of actively smoking, you will know what you do and don't like. After 6-8 months you will even be able to walk into a shop and tell at a glance/sniff/touch if you will like it. My favorite cigars have a Barnyard/Horse smell to them. Though none of them taste like a horse, thankfully.
Does it take time to distinguish one taste from another? I only get a tobacco taste. That's it nothing more. I have been smoking one or two a month for a few months now.
I have found that smoking Cigars has changed my palate considerably.
Before Cigars I could not begin to tell you what was in different beers
or wines or even stand the taste of straight whiskey/bourbon. Now with
just a year and some change under my belt I've found that I can taste
and appreciate a whole world of things a lot more than I previously
could.
But it definitely takes time, @Bigshizza was probably my
biggest help in developing my palate. He has hit me with a few cigars
that really challenged me. I've probably tried maybe 250 - 300 different
sticks total.
Within the first couple months of actively smoking, you will know what you do and don't like. After 6-8 months you will even be able to walk into a shop and tell at a glance/sniff/touch if you will like it. My favorite cigars have a Barnyard/Horse smell to them. Though none of them taste like a horse, thankfully.
Love the post and the idea to pair what other people say it taste(almonds, cocoa, etc.) with the stick and try to find the flavor. Actually love the idea to do that with everything and not just smokes.
"I read other reviewers to clue in on cigars I haven’t tried or to read along with while I smoke. Know why? If I don’t write, I’m a dummy. Seeing flavors in friendly font triggers something in my brain so that I can recognize and taste those flavor notes. Is it suggestive? Is it brainwashing? Of course it is."
I used to stop in at a cafe before they officially opened, on my way to work. I was friendly with the owner and baristas that worked there. They would dial in the coffees and give me some shots of espresso to try, saying things like "this one has a cherry note." You can bet that the suggestion was normally born out and I'd taste what they're describing.
Same thing happened when George described the burnt grapefruit notes he tasted with the Illusione Group of Five cigars, I started to pick up on the grapefruit notes in the cigar.
Join us on Zoom vHerf (Meeting # 2619860114 Password vHerf2020 )
@Yakster said:
I used to stop in at a cafe before they officially opened, on my way to work. I was friendly with the owner and baristas that worked there. They would dial in the coffees and give me some shots of espresso to try, saying things like "this one has a cherry note." You can bet that the suggestion was normally born out and I'd taste what they're describing.
Same thing happened when George described the burnt grapefruit notes he tasted with the Illusione Group of Five cigars, I started to pick up on the grapefruit notes in the cigar.
Stick around kids, I have many useful tasting notes to share. I’m here to help.
A good cigar and the open road solve most problems.
@Yakster said:
I used to stop in at a cafe before they officially opened, on my way to work. I was friendly with the owner and baristas that worked there. They would dial in the coffees and give me some shots of espresso to try, saying things like "this one has a cherry note." You can bet that the suggestion was normally born out and I'd taste what they're describing.
Same thing happened when George described the burnt grapefruit notes he tasted with the Illusione Group of Five cigars, I started to pick up on the grapefruit notes in the cigar.
Stick around kids, I have many useful tasting notes to share. I’m here to help.
@Yakster said:
I used to stop in at a cafe before they officially opened, on my way to work. I was friendly with the owner and baristas that worked there. They would dial in the coffees and give me some shots of espresso to try, saying things like "this one has a cherry note." You can bet that the suggestion was normally born out and I'd taste what they're describing.
Same thing happened when George described the burnt grapefruit notes he tasted with the Illusione Group of Five cigars, I started to pick up on the grapefruit notes in the cigar.
Stick around kids, I have many useful tasting notes to share. I’m here to help.
🩹
I have plenty of those too…oh wait, no I don’t. I’ve been married for years. 😂
A good cigar and the open road solve most problems.
Comments
...not just in cigars.
dont lead a passive flavor/smell life.
If you are eating or drinking something, anything, make sure to take the time to understand what you are tasting. when you walk into a leather shop, take a deep smell of it. understand it.
i mean, how do you expect to recognize mushrooms, or stone fruit, or leather, or coffee, or any other flavor in a cigar if you have no reference point?
I think the key is to try different brands and blends. I still can not identify different fruits as Lee said or different subtle variations. I think there is a big difference between mild, medium and full cigars. To me, some blenders have a consistent flavor. Try different brands and strengths and you should notice a difference.
My favorite cigar list here
* I have a new address as of 3/24/18 *
the first post by kuzi has some phenomenal information & insights
* I have a new address as of 3/24/18 *
* I have a new address as of 3/24/18 *
Your post hits it right on the head for me.
As a youth, I would rush in, rush thorough my food (because an epic ride was waiting, or a climb, or a fishing trip, etc), and would seemingly strive for speed/efficiency overall.
As I am getting a bit longer in the tooth (I have several kids, all still in school), I am enjoying the quiet time I can create. I have learned to savor my food, to savor my drink, and savor my smoke.
Commenting here to add another voice/+1 to paying attention to nuances and flavors of things.
-Jay
But it definitely takes time, @Bigshizza was probably my biggest help in developing my palate. He has hit me with a few cigars that really challenged me. I've probably tried maybe 250 - 300 different sticks total.
Within the first couple months of actively smoking, you will know what you do and don't like. After 6-8 months you will even be able to walk into a shop and tell at a glance/sniff/touch if you will like it. My favorite cigars have a Barnyard/Horse smell to them. Though none of them taste like a horse, thankfully.
but in case you didn't realize it, the timtom post you're replying to is from Dec 2014.
so don't expect a response back from him.
* I have a new address as of 3/24/18 *
Love the post and the idea to pair what other people say it taste(almonds, cocoa, etc.) with the stick and try to find the flavor. Actually love the idea to do that with everything and not just smokes.
More like cedar, hay, dirt, barn yard and whang.
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
@TNBigfoot68
Miss him.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
Awe it's nice to know that my way of describing flavor notes has been so impactful.
"I read other reviewers to clue in on cigars I haven’t tried or to read along with while I smoke. Know why? If I don’t write, I’m a dummy. Seeing flavors in friendly font triggers something in my brain so that I can recognize and taste those flavor notes. Is it suggestive? Is it brainwashing? Of course it is."
--Katman, in the Atabey review
I used to stop in at a cafe before they officially opened, on my way to work. I was friendly with the owner and baristas that worked there. They would dial in the coffees and give me some shots of espresso to try, saying things like "this one has a cherry note." You can bet that the suggestion was normally born out and I'd taste what they're describing.
Same thing happened when George described the burnt grapefruit notes he tasted with the Illusione Group of Five cigars, I started to pick up on the grapefruit notes in the cigar.
Have you ever tasted the whang?
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
Stick around kids, I have many useful tasting notes to share. I’m here to help.
A good cigar and the open road solve most problems.
🩹
I have plenty of those too…oh wait, no I don’t. I’ve been married for years. 😂
A good cigar and the open road solve most problems.