The bottom ones says 70 degrees. The middle and upper say 68.
Just got home from work, and the readings are as follows:
Upper: 67%
Middle: 65%
Lower: 63%
This is really perplexing. I wouldn't expect these kinds of differences from one shelf to another, nor these kinds of swings from one time to another. I would expect the RH in a humidor this size, with this many cigars in it, to be very stable, once seasoned.
I would think that a larger humidor, with likely a larger air-to-cigar ratio, to be less stable, rather than more stable. With multiple sources of humidification, you may be getting a bit of competition. And based on your numbers I must say that your large Oasis seems not to be performing as well as the smaller Oasis. I'm thinking your new Oasis is having trouble. I'd pull it and give it a solo task in a smaller humi, and see if it can keep up. My guess is that it can't. It also may be having some calibration issues.
That should be sufficient to explain the rest of your business. Throw all the beads you've got at it... it's supplemental humidification, as well as volume-eating goodness which will help to keep things stable. Then see if there is any way to maximize your airflow throughout the humi, and double-check the seals on the door from top to bottom. You may have a leak somewhere near the bottom, although I'd be very surprised by that.
If it needs to spend some time in my lab, I would (of course) be happy to conduct some tests and give it all a proper analysis.
The bottom ones says 70 degrees. The middle and upper say 68.
Just got home from work, and the readings are as follows:
Upper: 67%
Middle: 65%
Lower: 63%
This is really perplexing. I wouldn't expect these kinds of differences from one shelf to another, nor these kinds of swings from one time to another. I would expect the RH in a humidor this size, with this many cigars in it, to be very stable, once seasoned.
strange. i would think that it would be just the opposite... as in the top and bottom numbers switched.
im inclined to agree that the the the more air in a humidor the less stable it will be. air transfers moisture very quickly compared to cigars. I have a tendency to think of cigars as a humidification device. I know they arent really, but they do go a long way to helping.
if you can bump those numbers up just a tad then you can have a range in there, and i think thats a good thing. keep the cigars that you want to age in the 70% area, the cigars that you are going to smoke soon but like a slightly higher RH in the 67-68% area and the cigars that have very thick wrappers are maduros or just seem to like a lover RH in the 65% area.
The bottom ones says 70 degrees. The middle and upper say 68.
Just got home from work, and the readings are as follows:
Upper: 67%
Middle: 65%
Lower: 63%
This is really perplexing. I wouldn't expect these kinds of differences from one shelf to another, nor these kinds of swings from one time to another. I would expect the RH in a humidor this size, with this many cigars in it, to be very stable, once seasoned.
strange. i would think that it would be just the opposite... as in the top and bottom numbers switched.
im inclined to agree that the the the more air in a humidor the less stable it will be. air transfers moisture very quickly compared to cigars. I have a tendency to think of cigars as a humidification device. I know they arent really, but they do go a long way to helping.
I think it may be flipped because the Oasis II is pumping the air upwards rapidly, warmer air(normally more humid correct?) stays at the top while cooler, less humid air falls back down. I'd get an oust fan or two and point them down back towards the Oasis and see if that helps stabilize it.
I see your point, doody and maddy, about the air volume. And I agree with you, but only sort of. I think you're right that the larger air volume would cause the RH to fluctuate more when the humi got opened. But with the door staying closed, which it has been, I would expect that much seasoned lumber and that many already humidified cigars to create a very stable environment.
The readings at noon:
Upper: 65%
Middle: 66%
Lower: 66%
Those are nice numbers, but, again, I'm perplexed as to why they're changing as much as they are. I guess I'll just continue to keep an eye on them and see if I notice any pattern to it over a longer time.
I did introduce one new variable at noon. Well, two, actually. A box of Monte Media Noches and 2 fivers of Cusano 18 paired maduros, fresh from UPS. All went on the top shelf. We'll see what happens.
strange. i would think that it would be just the opposite... as in the top and bottom numbers switched.
im inclined to agree that the the the more air in a humidor the less stable it will be. air transfers moisture very quickly compared to cigars. I have a tendency to think of cigars as a humidification device. I know they arent really, but they do go a long way to helping.
if you can bump those numbers up just a tad then you can have a range in there, and i think thats a good thing. keep the cigars that you want to age in the 70% area, the cigars that you are going to smoke soon but like a slightly higher RH in the 67-68% area and the cigars that have very thick wrappers are maduros or just seem to like a lover RH in the 65% area.
That's a good thought. If the RH at the various levels will stay steady, I may just do that. Thanks, kuz.
I think it may be flipped because the Oasis II is pumping the air upwards rapidly, warmer air(normally more humid correct?) stays at the top while cooler, less humid air falls back down. I'd get an oust fan or two and point them down back towards the Oasis and see if that helps stabilize it.
I'm not sure how rapidly the Oasis II is pumping the air upwards, though. It's got 4 rows of drawers between it and the upper shelves, all with substantial numbers of cigars in them. And, for reasons I don't understand, the humi is built so that there is for all intents and purposes a seal across the front at the top of the drawers. That is, where the divider in the door is, between the upper and lower panes of glass, there's an extra thickness of cedar on the back side of it. It looks to me like it has to prevent much bottom-to-top circulation from happening up the front of the humi. So the only circulation is what's provided by the slots in the bottoms of the drawers, shelves, and trays. But with those bottoms covered with at least one layer and in almost all cases more than one layer of cigars, I wouldn't think the upward circulation is happening very rapidly.
I think it may be flipped because the Oasis II is pumping the air upwards rapidly, warmer air(normally more humid correct?) stays at the top while cooler, less humid air falls back down. I'd get an oust fan or two and point them down back towards the Oasis and see if that helps stabilize it.
I'm not sure how rapidly the Oasis II is pumping the air upwards, though. It's got 4 rows of drawers between it and the upper shelves, all with substantial numbers of cigars in them. And, for reasons I don't understand, the humi is built so that there is for all intents and purposes a seal across the front at the top of the drawers. That is, where the divider in the door is, between the upper and lower panes of glass, there's an extra thickness of cedar on the back side of it. It looks to me like it has to prevent much bottom-to-top circulation from happening up the front of the humi. So the only circulation is what's provided by the slots in the bottoms of the drawers, shelves, and trays. But with those bottoms covered with at least one layer and in almost all cases more than one layer of cigars, I wouldn't think the upward circulation is happening very rapidly.
I have to say: one darn nice thing about the Oasis II is the wired remote control. I don't have to get down on my hands and knees and dig back to the humidifier unit itself to see what it's reading or adjust it. It's all right there at eye-level. Handy. (BTW, none of the RH numbers I've posted are from the Oasis remote. They're all from digital hygros.)
Either more beads or you need to recharge the beads you have. Adding more beads would keep you from having to recharge as often, and probably help the RH recover more quickly after you open the humi.
That's what they've been reading for a week or more, now. The top one ticks up to 65% every now and then, and the middle one ticks up to 67% once in a while.
Your cabinet humi is awsome Da 'Bino ......its my inspiration as I save for my own....
That Humi and the contents of it are borderline porn..
for a cigar lover you are exactly right Kas it is definitly porn
I keep going back and looking at the pictures and say " I have that, what is that, I love those, I need more of those, look at all the Gurkhas, and Fuentes " He can never smoke all of those...Damn that urbi knows how to pick 'em
Your cabinet humi is awsome Da 'Bino ......its my inspiration as I save for my own....
That Humi and the contents of it are borderline porn..
for a cigar lover you are exactly right Kas it is definitly porn
I keep going back and looking at the pictures and say " I have that, what is that, I love those, I need more of those, look at all the Gurkhas, and Fuentes " He can never smoke all of those...Damn that urbi knows how to pick 'em
Thats funny man I just finished doin'the same thing
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Just got home from work, and the readings are as follows:
Upper: 67%
Middle: 65%
Lower: 63%
This is really perplexing. I wouldn't expect these kinds of differences from one shelf to another, nor these kinds of swings from one time to another. I would expect the RH in a humidor this size, with this many cigars in it, to be very stable, once seasoned.
That should be sufficient to explain the rest of your business. Throw all the beads you've got at it... it's supplemental humidification, as well as volume-eating goodness which will help to keep things stable. Then see if there is any way to maximize your airflow throughout the humi, and double-check the seals on the door from top to bottom. You may have a leak somewhere near the bottom, although I'd be very surprised by that.
If it needs to spend some time in my lab, I would (of course) be happy to conduct some tests and give it all a proper analysis.
im inclined to agree that the the the more air in a humidor the less stable it will be. air transfers moisture very quickly compared to cigars. I have a tendency to think of cigars as a humidification device. I know they arent really, but they do go a long way to helping.
if you can bump those numbers up just a tad then you can have a range in there, and i think thats a good thing.
keep the cigars that you want to age in the 70% area,
the cigars that you are going to smoke soon but like a slightly higher RH in the 67-68% area
and the cigars that have very thick wrappers are maduros or just seem to like a lover RH in the 65% area.
The readings at noon:
Upper: 65%
Middle: 66%
Lower: 66%
Those are nice numbers, but, again, I'm perplexed as to why they're changing as much as they are. I guess I'll just continue to keep an eye on them and see if I notice any pattern to it over a longer time.
I did introduce one new variable at noon. Well, two, actually. A box of Monte Media Noches and 2 fivers of Cusano 18 paired maduros, fresh from UPS. All went on the top shelf. We'll see what happens.
Middle: 67%
Lower: 66%
I have to say: one darn nice thing about the Oasis II is the wired remote control. I don't have to get down on my hands and knees and dig back to the humidifier unit itself to see what it's reading or adjust it. It's all right there at eye-level. Handy. (BTW, none of the RH numbers I've posted are from the Oasis remote. They're all from digital hygros.)
Middle: 66%
Lower: 66%
That's what they've been reading for a week or more, now. The top one ticks up to 65% every now and then, and the middle one ticks up to 67% once in a while.
Your cabinet humi is awsome Da 'Bino ......its my inspiration as I save for my own....
for a cigar lover you are exactly right Kas it is definitly porn
Thats funny man I just finished doin'the same thing
Honestly, I have no idea where all those Gurkhas came from. I'm not even a big fan of Gurkhas. I need to work some trades.
The Fuentes, on the other hand, I know exactly why have so many of those, and where they came from (me, Feebs, Scrams, and Doogie, for the most part).