Hmmm, A-B is one of my favorite brands. How do these things typically go? Does the product change much? Eliminating some labels, putting new management in place, or what?
It depends. Product could remain the same because they bought the entire operation. SKUs will probably be rearranged some and I’m sure new management will be in place.
In the case of other companies they have bought, in my opinion quality suffered because they are more concerned with quantity than the quality that the previous owners upheld.
@Rdp77 , I suppose the two sons have been groomed for their own business, as some of the cigars produced are called Alec & Bradley, not Alec Bradley, so they may break off and do their own thing. Maybe Alan Rubin is ready to retire, so this makes sense for the family.
Thanks @Rdp77 . It sounds like the same old corporate gobbledy-gook that is spouted at every merger/acquisition. I agree with the first commenter, I don't think Alan Rubin will be with STG for long, and hopefully they didn't sign a non-compete agreement.
I wonder if more will be leaving Tabacalera Pichardo in the future.
The blend is changing a bit as part of the move, as the Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper on the original is being replaced with an Ecuadorian Habana 2000 leaf.
Too bad, I've been loving Sumatra wrapper lately.
I was looking at these this morning, looks like getting some now before the old stock has disappeared is in order. Have you tried this stick? SB still has the Sumatra wrapper ones.
@Patrickbrick said:
It seems every NFT is selling for 100,000k. The LFD ones all went for about that.
I followed the LFD one pretty close. There was one that sold for 105k and one that went for 106k. Now everything I’m reading says they went for under 100 and that the first Tat one broke the record. There’s some bullshìt surrounding this stuff…well, I mean other than the fact that they’re complete bullshít to start with in my opinion
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What also gets me in the astronomical price increases of the Year of the _____ cigars.
Patel $35,
Davidoff $59
Olivia $35
Gurkha $25
VegaFina $15
This is not sour grapes, as I can afford those - if I choose to. But it irritates me because this (IMHO) is a case of "We do it because we can". IOW, they know people will pay those crazy prices, so why not charge an astronomical price? I refuse to pay that much for dried leaves, mostly because the normally-priced dried leaves taste as good or better.
In case y'all didn't know, the Fuente Fuente impossible 13 collection is up for grabs at SP for the low low price of $2,600.00 if you're interested.
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I do think that's a charity gig, though, so that buys them some slack.
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On a lighter note, I thought todays Daily Deal #2 was good
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^^^That explains the crazy deals I’ve been seeing on this one cigar page. There is usually something that precipitates a slew of deals (sale, line elimination or packaging change usually). Good information to have.
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I wanted to like the gueguense but found them somewhat unexciting, have a bunch of them . Maybe if the wise man are worse I will like the old ones better, lol.
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It depends. Product could remain the same because they bought the entire operation. SKUs will probably be rearranged some and I’m sure new management will be in place.
In the case of other companies they have bought, in my opinion quality suffered because they are more concerned with quantity than the quality that the previous owners upheld.
@Rdp77 , I suppose the two sons have been groomed for their own business, as some of the cigars produced are called Alec & Bradley, not Alec Bradley, so they may break off and do their own thing. Maybe Alan Rubin is ready to retire, so this makes sense for the family.
Here's what Charlie "Great Words Live In My Head" Minato has to say about it. It's actually a good read.
https://halfwheel.com/13-thoughts-stg-buys-alec-bradley/420317/?fbclid=IwAR2Rml2l6BDHemOay2u9i_KOv-O1Uw7AcFoukcYh6RVcz1kqVYKVpIvPOvg
Thanks, Peter.
And Phillip Morris owns controlling interest in Swedish Match.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/philip-morris-says-delist-swedish-match-after-raising-stake-93-2022-11-28/
I don't own any stock in PM but this is interesting:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4580732-philip-morris-is-a-5-1-percent-yielding-dividend-aristocrat-retirement-dream-buy
@TRayB
https://cigar-coop.com/2023/03/cigar-news-stg-announces-transition-for-alec-bradley-and-plans-for-rubin-family.html
Thanks @Rdp77 . It sounds like the same old corporate gobbledy-gook that is spouted at every merger/acquisition. I agree with the first commenter, I don't think Alan Rubin will be with STG for long, and hopefully they didn't sign a non-compete agreement.
I was looking at these this morning, looks like getting some now before the old stock has disappeared is in order. Have you tried this stick? SB still has the Sumatra wrapper ones.
Probably a good idea.
https://cigar-coop.com/2023/08/cigar-news-tatuaje-anarchy-nft-auctions-open-august-21.html
Seems like a steal
It seems every NFT is selling for 100,000k. The LFD ones all went for about that.
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I followed the LFD one pretty close. There was one that sold for 105k and one that went for 106k. Now everything I’m reading says they went for under 100 and that the first Tat one broke the record. There’s some bullshìt surrounding this stuff…well, I mean other than the fact that they’re complete bullshít to start with in my opinion
Alternative facts.
Which is an oxymoron
Halfwheel has reported the following companies have announced price increases most starting in February. You know what to do.
https://halfwheel.com/roma-craft-tobac-increasing-prices-next-month/432600/
https://halfwheel.com/?s=&q=increasing+prices
AJ also ↑
It's actually looking like I may become an "occasional" smoker, even my yard gars are getting higher, seems like weekly.
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What also gets me in the astronomical price increases of the Year of the _____ cigars.
Patel $35,
Davidoff $59
Olivia $35
Gurkha $25
VegaFina $15
This is not sour grapes, as I can afford those - if I choose to. But it irritates me because this (IMHO) is a case of "We do it because we can". IOW, they know people will pay those crazy prices, so why not charge an astronomical price? I refuse to pay that much for dried leaves, mostly because the normally-priced dried leaves taste as good or better.
In case y'all didn't know, the Fuente Fuente impossible 13 collection is up for grabs at SP for the low low price of $2,600.00 if you're interested.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
I do think that's a charity gig, though, so that buys them some slack.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
On a lighter note, I thought todays Daily Deal #2 was good
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
I hope the quality doesn’t go down, but potentially Rip Caldwell.
https://halfwheel.com/laudisi-acquires-caldwell-cigar-co/435617/
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^^^That explains the crazy deals I’ve been seeing on this one cigar page. There is usually something that precipitates a slew of deals (sale, line elimination or packaging change usually). Good information to have.
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They’ll be better after the switch
Wonder what the difference will be between El Gueguense and the new Wise Man Corojo.
I wanted to like the gueguense but found them somewhat unexciting, have a bunch of them . Maybe if the wise man are worse I will like the old ones better, lol.
We're they made by My Father before this or are they now going to be made by My Father? Would seem like different farms/crops.
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