There used to be a book for that, but it's banned.
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Probably full of so called hate speach. Full of facts and science.
Oh you mean that global warming book... See man, I had a very nice post above and then I just couldn't help myself. I just had to poke the bear and start a big riot. I'm a terrible human.
Books glorifying sexual acts between adults and children are not comparable to Jaws or a book that might simply mention d;ck.
Why are so many men willing to stand aside while pedophilia slowly becomes normalized? Children who have been molested are said to have experienced serious trauma. Yet, now our society allows men in restrooms with little girls, books glorifying pedophilia into schools, and men dressed up like hookers to read to our children.
Why the complacency? Because it's easier to claim it's a grey area? Because it's easier to turn a blind eye?
Just to be clear, though I mentioned the Jaws comparison that Frank brought up I'm not directing this post at Frank. I'm also not necessarily looking for someone to answer my questions, though I am fine with someone doing so. That portion of my post is more rhetorical than anything else.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
I didn't take it as Frank saying stand aside and let it happen, more like make sure you vet the people that the taxpayers are putting in charge.
It's a sticky situation. I agree with Stubble and Hobbes that there's a pressure to normalize social deviance. However, the utmost caution must be exercised when combatting such movements. How many times has Huck Finn been banned? The great American novel that first brought home the message that Black People were just that, Black People. For those bright enough to understand it, anyway. And a lot of people didn't want to hear that message, and a lot of them couldn't understand that it was a portrait of a racist society, not a call to racism. People are stupid.
I know, not comparable to a pedophelic agenda, nowadays.
I guess the slippery slope is that book banning is the first step to book burning and before you know it, it's Kristallnacht and they're rounding up the usual suspects. And killing them. The myth of American exceptionalism aside, yes folks, it CAN happen here.
Hopefully not misquoting Nietzsche too badly, but one must exercise caution not to become a monster when one sets out to kill a monster. Take as an example these 5 cops in Memphis. I doubt they joined the force so they could beat some guy to death, it's astounding how far decent people will sink into depraved madness when told that they're fighting the bad guys.
That's my worry, anyway.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
If the goal is to not have your children read those books, I think banning them is counterproductive. It's a classic Streisand effect. I have always loved reading, and I was a latchkey kid with parents who worked all the time and weren't around very much. Probably related, I was also a $hithead of a kid, and I had to do a lot of work on myself as an adult to change my behavior. When I was around 12, I found a banned book list and started reading a bunch of them. Like Frank said earlier, the best way to get your kid to not read that stuff is to just be involved in their life and talk to them about it. I would love to know if banning books decreases the amount of kids who read them, because it worked the opposite way for me.
It's kind of like when the left tries to cancel someone, and then that person gains a bunch of new followers because no one was aware of them before. Canceling someone is often the best thing that can happen to their career. I feel the same way about this.
@Amos_Umwhat said:
I guess the slippery slope is that book banning is the first step to book burning and before you know it, it's Kristallnacht and they're rounding up the usual suspects. And killing them. The myth of American exceptionalism aside, yes folks, it CAN happen here.
The difference is that nobody here is claiming the books must be banned from society. I believe the books should be banned from school libraries because children are the target audience there. We do this sort of thing all over the place. To play off of what @Stubble mentioned, we don't sell guns, Playboy magazines, tobacco, or alcohol to children. How is banning a book that glorifies pedophilia from school libraries any different?
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Good points. Like Calvin, that ban would have guaranteed that I would read the banned material, unless I didn't know it existed. Like if someone responsible had simply said no to the title, without making a federal case of it
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@Hobbes86 said:
Books glorifying sexual acts between adults and children are not comparable to Jaws or a book that might simply mention d;ck.
Why are so many men willing to stand aside while pedophilia slowly becomes normalized? Children who have been molested are said to have experienced serious trauma. Yet, now our society allows men in restrooms with little girls, books glorifying pedophilia into schools, and men dressed up like hookers to read to our children.
Why the complacency? Because it's easier to claim it's a grey area? Because it's easier to turn a blind eye?
Just to be clear, though I mentioned the Jaws comparison that Frank brought up I'm not directing this post at Frank. I'm also not necessarily looking for someone to answer my questions, though I am fine with someone doing so. That portion of my post is more rhetorical than anything else.
Glad you clarified that you weren't pointing at me, because it sure as hell red that you were pointing at me as one of the "men so willing to stand aside while pedophilia is slowly becomes normalized," which you mentioned right after the paragraph you mentioned with my specific examples.
You know who else is pretending they can't tell the difference between porn and educational material? The groomers/educators who want your child to know exactly how to wear a strap on and what to poke with it.
@VegasFrank said:
Glad you clarified that you weren't pointing at me, because it sure as hell red that you were pointing at me as one of the "men so willing to stand aside while pedophilia is slowly becomes normalized," which you mentioned right after the paragraph you mentioned with my specific examples.
Then I'm glad I thought to include that section.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
@Amos_Umwhat said:
I guess the slippery slope is that book banning is the first step to book burning and before you know it, it's Kristallnacht and they're rounding up the usual suspects. And killing them. The myth of American exceptionalism aside, yes folks, it CAN happen here.
The difference is that nobody here is claiming the books must be banned from society. I believe the books should be banned from school libraries because children are the target audience there. We do this sort of thing all over the place. To play off of what @Stubble mentioned, we don't sell guns, Playboy magazines, tobacco, or alcohol to children. How is banning a book that glorifies pedophilia from school libraries any different?
Because it causes them to be read more. I'm not a parent, but if I was, I'd hope that my school district would not ban a bunch of books and then put out a list of what's banned, in kid language that's basically saying "you won't do it, you're too chicken". I get the motive behind the banning, it's just not a good solution to the problem.
@CalvinAndHobo said:
Because it causes them to be read more. I'm not a parent, but if I was, I'd hope that my school district would not ban a bunch of books and then put out a list of what's banned, in kid language that's basically saying "you won't do it, you're too chicken". I get the motive behind the banning, it's just not a good solution to the problem.
Some kids might read them, if they are aware of them being banned, simply because they are banned. Saying that they will certainly be read more requires a lot of assumption, though. How many kids will know they are banned? How many know there is even a list? How many are even the types to read something simply because it is banned? How many are willing to put forth the effort to obtain the book?
If all it took to get folks to read a book is to ban it, then many Christians would be lobbying to ban the Bible.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
@CalvinAndHobo said:
Because it causes them to be read more. I'm not a parent, but if I was, I'd hope that my school district would not ban a bunch of books and then put out a list of what's banned, in kid language that's basically saying "you won't do it, you're too chicken". I get the motive behind the banning, it's just not a good solution to the problem.
Some kids might read them, if they are aware of them being banned, simply because they are banned. Saying that they will certainly be read more requires a lot of assumption, though. How many kids will know they are banned? How many know there is even a list? How many are even the types to read something simply because it is banned? How many are willing to put forth the effort to obtain the book?
If all it took to get folks to read a book is to ban it, then many Christians would be lobbying to ban the Bible.
Yeah, true, I am assuming things there that are not actually facts. Your Christianity example is a perfect representation of my assumption though, given the persecution that Christians went through in the first 200 or so years after Jesus' death, and the exponential increase of Christianity during that time frame.
@CalvinAndHobo said:
Yeah, true, I am assuming things there that are not actually facts. Your Christianity example is a perfect representation of my assumption though, given the persecution that Christians went through in the first 200 or so years after Jesus' death, and the exponential increase of Christianity during that time frame.
A person can certainly assume that's the reason Christianity grew.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
If all it took to get folks to read a book is to ban it, then many Christians would be lobbying to ban the Bible.
Nah, we don't have to. The schools in concert with the folks who are in charge of bans are already doing it.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
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All they need these days is one viable strand of dna. Doesn’t matter if it’s from bone, hair, a feather, or whatever. They can do complete gene mapping from there. Pretty scary actually. Even more scary is the fact that they receive funding from government agencies.
I think he was asking "How?" could it be useful for intelligence gathering, rather than how the science works. At least that's how I took it.
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Oh wait! I know! Couple agency guys were sitting around and one of them asked "What if Saddam Hussein and Genghis Khan had a baby?". Then...
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@Amos_Umwhat said:
I think he was asking "How?" could it be useful for intelligence gathering, rather than how the science works. At least that's how I took it.
Lol I’d say you’re right. “Intelligence gathering” purposely covers an infinitely broad spectrum. My best guess is that it comes down to potential for weaponization.
Didn’t work out so well in the movies😒
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The man, Mr K. Kawshigan, filed his lawsuit against Ms Nora Tan after she told him she wasn’t interested in a romantic relationship with him, according to Singapore-based newspaper The Straits Times.
The publication reported that Kawshigan filed two lawusuits against her, including a $3 million High Court claim that alleged the woman caused “damage to his stellar reputation” and “trauma, depression and impacts” to his life.
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Personal one for me. I bought a rakita USSR vintage 24-hour dial wrist watch. Waited 5 weeks for it to show up, picked out a band for it. Waited 2 weeks for the band to show up. Finally installed it and it looks fabulous.
I put it on checked it out. Really like how it looks! Nice. Springtime summertime watch.
Taking it off with the stiff leather strap and it goes flying off my wrist and hits the **** floor. Cracked the acrylic Crystal, second hand is off, and the hour and minute hands no longer turn with the time keeping.
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Work on it...we'll wait.
Books glorifying sexual acts between adults and children are not comparable to Jaws or a book that might simply mention d;ck.
Why are so many men willing to stand aside while pedophilia slowly becomes normalized? Children who have been molested are said to have experienced serious trauma. Yet, now our society allows men in restrooms with little girls, books glorifying pedophilia into schools, and men dressed up like hookers to read to our children.
Why the complacency? Because it's easier to claim it's a grey area? Because it's easier to turn a blind eye?
Just to be clear, though I mentioned the Jaws comparison that Frank brought up I'm not directing this post at Frank. I'm also not necessarily looking for someone to answer my questions, though I am fine with someone doing so. That portion of my post is more rhetorical than anything else.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
I didn't take it as Frank saying stand aside and let it happen, more like make sure you vet the people that the taxpayers are putting in charge.
It's a sticky situation. I agree with Stubble and Hobbes that there's a pressure to normalize social deviance. However, the utmost caution must be exercised when combatting such movements. How many times has Huck Finn been banned? The great American novel that first brought home the message that Black People were just that, Black People. For those bright enough to understand it, anyway. And a lot of people didn't want to hear that message, and a lot of them couldn't understand that it was a portrait of a racist society, not a call to racism. People are stupid.
I know, not comparable to a pedophelic agenda, nowadays.
I guess the slippery slope is that book banning is the first step to book burning and before you know it, it's Kristallnacht and they're rounding up the usual suspects. And killing them. The myth of American exceptionalism aside, yes folks, it CAN happen here.
Hopefully not misquoting Nietzsche too badly, but one must exercise caution not to become a monster when one sets out to kill a monster. Take as an example these 5 cops in Memphis. I doubt they joined the force so they could beat some guy to death, it's astounding how far decent people will sink into depraved madness when told that they're fighting the bad guys.
That's my worry, anyway.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
If the goal is to not have your children read those books, I think banning them is counterproductive. It's a classic Streisand effect. I have always loved reading, and I was a latchkey kid with parents who worked all the time and weren't around very much. Probably related, I was also a $hithead of a kid, and I had to do a lot of work on myself as an adult to change my behavior. When I was around 12, I found a banned book list and started reading a bunch of them. Like Frank said earlier, the best way to get your kid to not read that stuff is to just be involved in their life and talk to them about it. I would love to know if banning books decreases the amount of kids who read them, because it worked the opposite way for me.
It's kind of like when the left tries to cancel someone, and then that person gains a bunch of new followers because no one was aware of them before. Canceling someone is often the best thing that can happen to their career. I feel the same way about this.
So...let's get things rolling.
Make drugs, firearms, and alcohol available to children, openly mind you, and let the parents sort it out.
The difference is that nobody here is claiming the books must be banned from society. I believe the books should be banned from school libraries because children are the target audience there. We do this sort of thing all over the place. To play off of what @Stubble mentioned, we don't sell guns, Playboy magazines, tobacco, or alcohol to children. How is banning a book that glorifies pedophilia from school libraries any different?
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Good points. Like Calvin, that ban would have guaranteed that I would read the banned material, unless I didn't know it existed. Like if someone responsible had simply said no to the title, without making a federal case of it
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Glad you clarified that you weren't pointing at me, because it sure as hell red that you were pointing at me as one of the "men so willing to stand aside while pedophilia is slowly becomes normalized," which you mentioned right after the paragraph you mentioned with my specific examples.
You know who else is pretending they can't tell the difference between porn and educational material? The groomers/educators who want your child to know exactly how to wear a strap on and what to poke with it.
Then I'm glad I thought to include that section.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Because it causes them to be read more. I'm not a parent, but if I was, I'd hope that my school district would not ban a bunch of books and then put out a list of what's banned, in kid language that's basically saying "you won't do it, you're too chicken". I get the motive behind the banning, it's just not a good solution to the problem.
Some kids might read them, if they are aware of them being banned, simply because they are banned. Saying that they will certainly be read more requires a lot of assumption, though. How many kids will know they are banned? How many know there is even a list? How many are even the types to read something simply because it is banned? How many are willing to put forth the effort to obtain the book?
If all it took to get folks to read a book is to ban it, then many Christians would be lobbying to ban the Bible.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Yeah, true, I am assuming things there that are not actually facts. Your Christianity example is a perfect representation of my assumption though, given the persecution that Christians went through in the first 200 or so years after Jesus' death, and the exponential increase of Christianity during that time frame.
A person can certainly assume that's the reason Christianity grew.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Nah, we don't have to. The schools in concert with the folks who are in charge of bans are already doing it.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
While packing some boxes for our impending move, I came across this book.
"Fact" number two is based upon, "scientists think."
I found that bit quite amusing.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Okay I'll be the one. What is amusing?
It's a book about Earth facts, but number two is based on what scientists think, which isn't fact.
They undermine the book title within the first couple of pages. I find it amusing.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Tesla EVs, Even Mildly Damaged, Are Being Written Off by Insurance Companies
Insurers are increasingly concluding that a broken Tesla is too expensive to fix.
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Getting some real Jurassic Park vibes here…
How ^?
All they need these days is one viable strand of dna. Doesn’t matter if it’s from bone, hair, a feather, or whatever. They can do complete gene mapping from there. Pretty scary actually. Even more scary is the fact that they receive funding from government agencies.
I think he was asking "How?" could it be useful for intelligence gathering, rather than how the science works. At least that's how I took it.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Oh wait! I know! Couple agency guys were sitting around and one of them asked "What if Saddam Hussein and Genghis Khan had a baby?". Then...
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Lol I’d say you’re right. “Intelligence gathering” purposely covers an infinitely broad spectrum. My best guess is that it comes down to potential for weaponization.
Didn’t work out so well in the movies😒
Man sues woman who rejected him for $3m over ‘emotional trauma’
A man in Singapore has sued a woman who rejected him for $3m, claiming that she caused emotional “trauma” to his life.
The man, Mr K. Kawshigan, filed his lawsuit against Ms Nora Tan after she told him she wasn’t interested in a romantic relationship with him, according to Singapore-based newspaper The Straits Times.
The publication reported that Kawshigan filed two lawusuits against her, including a $3 million High Court claim that alleged the woman caused “damage to his stellar reputation” and “trauma, depression and impacts” to his life.
Energy: Exxon Mobil set a company record and a historic high for the western oil industry with a $56 billion net profit for 2022. Its financial results and those of Shell and Chevron prompted renewed criticism and sparked calls for more windfall profit taxes.
Personal one for me. I bought a rakita USSR vintage 24-hour dial wrist watch. Waited 5 weeks for it to show up, picked out a band for it. Waited 2 weeks for the band to show up. Finally installed it and it looks fabulous.
I put it on checked it out. Really like how it looks! Nice. Springtime summertime watch.
Taking it off with the stiff leather strap and it goes flying off my wrist and hits the **** floor. Cracked the acrylic Crystal, second hand is off, and the hour and minute hands no longer turn with the time keeping.
Total loss.
Aw, that sucks, but don't give up, it's just upset. Ask a watch repair to have a look at it, may be less expensive than ordering another one.