But, I want my milk to come from udders! If there's no udder, there's only one other option, and I don't want any of that "milk".
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Yeah I guess it’s too polarizing because the bulls are claiming they can give milk.
I’m so sick of this bullshìt. Exactly who is it polarizing to??? Who brought up that a cows fúcking udders were offensive??? My guess is ABSOLUTELY NOBODY except the person that came up with this pitiful cry for publicity. Buncha damn idiots. I hate people.
Tennessee is so geographically distant east to west, despite having lived in both the west and the middle sections, I’ve never heard of Weigel’s. I guess it’s a big deal in the east.
Not all books have a place in school libraries. For example,... Parents should have the right to prevent librarians and other educators from introducing books to their children that include graphic descriptions of minors performing sex acts. Have you seen the videos of the parents who show up at school board meetings and read aloud from the books in the school libraries? All hell breaks loose at these school board meetings because the school boards cannot bear to hear the words from the books in their own school libraries.
Speaker removed from Orange County School Board meeting for reading from a book found at library https://youtu.be/nGnMA92oygQ
"We Sucked Each Others' D*cks" -- Mom Reads Sexually Explicit School Library Book to Board https://youtu.be/fmRPQzwuBsc
FCPS School Board Meeting-Woman Silenced After Reading Pornographic Book From School's Own Library https://youtu.be/Eog_UDtpaVs
While mom is demanding censorship at the school board meeting some of the little darlins are home scrolling through porn sites on their cell phones or arranging a hookup with their dealer. The best way to pique the interest of a teenager is to ban something. This is going to backfire in proportion to the strictness of the resistance.
@silvermouse said:
While mom is demanding censorship at the school board meeting some of the little darlins are home scrolling through porn sites on their cell phones or arranging a hookup with their dealer. The best way to pique the interest of a teenager is to ban something. This is going to backfire in proportion to the strictness of the resistance.
Oh, I know man, I know, since the kids have porn on their phones anyway, it doesn't matter. Right? I figured I'd get that from Frank. I guess he's out golfing still. He can pile on later I guess.
@silvermouse said:
While mom is demanding censorship at the school board meeting some of the little darlins are home scrolling through porn sites on their cell phones or arranging a hookup with their dealer. The best way to pique the interest of a teenager is to ban something. This is going to backfire in proportion to the strictness of the resistance.
You are arguing that pornographic materials should be allowed in our schools...
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Awesome! While I'm making breakfast for my three kids, you guys are talking about fourth graders sucking each other off. Brilliant! 😂
@Bob_Luken Nice try but you're not going to trigger me brother! Lol 😆 I am proud of three facts. Fact number one, Nevada has zero banned books. Fact number two, a quick search of the CCSD online library lists none of these books in the database, meaning that the library doesn't stock these titles. Fact number three, my children have never read any of these titles.
You don't have to ban books to prevent them from being stocked in a library. Don't know if you know this or not, but you can consciously choose to pass up a book title. It doesn't need to be on a ban list. I'm guessing that Edward feels sort of the same way I do about this. Let us both elect reasonable adults to run our schools, and then trust the judgment of these reasonable adults to do their parts.
It's also okay to be an involved parent! I know what my children are reading partially because I asked them and partially because I know them. Sure, they might do things that I'm unaware of, but so did I and so did you. I do know that my kids don't have pornography on their phones because I actually censor what they can do on their phones and then double check the sensoring procedures. The very first kilobyte of pornography that hits a phone is the very last piece of data that the phone will ever transmit or receive.
I also know this because I set the example for them, and then reinforce that example with conversations and mentoring in a consistent and positive way. My kids are aware of pornography. They are aware that it is often an avenue for human trafficking, and they know what human trafficking is. I'm not afraid of the topic. Parents who are afraid of it and avoid it? Might be in a different predicament.
Thank you, @VegasFrank . I couldn't have said it any better.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
@VegasFrank said:
Awesome! While I'm making breakfast for my three kids, you guys are talking about fourth graders sucking each other off. Brilliant! 😂
@Bob_Luken Nice try but you're not going to trigger me brother! Lol 😆 I am proud of three facts. Fact number one, Nevada has zero banned books. Fact number two, a quick search of the CCSD online library lists none of these books in the database, meaning that the library doesn't stock these titles. Fact number three, my children have never read any of these titles.
You don't have to ban books to prevent them from being stocked in a library. Don't know if you know this or not, but you can consciously choose to pass up a book title. It doesn't need to be on a ban list. I'm guessing that Edward feels sort of the same way I do about this. Let us both elect reasonable adults to run our schools, and then trust the judgment of these reasonable adults to do their parts.
It's also okay to be an involved parent! I know what my children are reading partially because I asked them and partially because I know them. Sure, they might do things that I'm unaware of, but so did I and so did you. I do know that my kids don't have pornography on their phones because I actually censor what they can do on their phones and then double check the sensoring procedures. The very first kilobyte of pornography that hits a phone is the very last piece of data that the phone will ever transmit or receive.
I also know this because I set the example for them, and then reinforce that example with conversations and mentoring in a consistent and positive way. My kids are aware of pornography. They are aware that it is often an avenue for human trafficking, and they know what human trafficking is. I'm not afraid of the topic. Parents who are afraid of it and avoid it? Might be in a different predicament.
I'm all for parental involvement in schools and what kids see and hear on their phones. However, I view banning that type of material from schools as part of that involvement.
Bottom line, most parents don't want that rubbish around their kids, so why feel conflicted about banning it from school libraries?
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Many people feel the same way about religious texts.
I’m not sure that banning anything is the right or wrong answer. Meth is banned, but kids every day get their hands on it. In my opinion it’s like so many other things….it starts at home. If people allow their children to be parented by social media and the internet then that’s what they will base their choices in life on. There are way too many sick people in the damn world. It is our job as parents to protect our children from them; however, I also feel that it is our job to teach them, through whatever means we see fit, and give them the information they need to make good decisions for themselves.
@Rdp77 said:
Many people feel the same way about religious texts.
I’m not sure that banning anything is the right or wrong answer. Meth is banned, but kids every day get their hands on it. In my opinion it’s like so many other things….it starts at home. If people allow their children to be parented by social media and the internet then that’s what they will base their choices in life on. There are way too many sick people in the damn world. It is our job as parents to protect our children from them; however, I also feel that it is our job to teach them, through whatever means we see fit, and give them the information they need to make good decisions for themselves.
I think I agree with everything you said. It seems to me that folks are generally more receptive to banning religious texts from school than they are the tripe in question. I think religious texts shouldn't be in public schools either.
Training a child up in the way he/she should go is the best way. However, we need to be measured in what we knowingly expose them to, careful to be sure they are mature enough to face whatever it is. We all ban things from our children in our own homes in an effort to protect them until they are ready. I see banning pornogrphic material from schools as an extension of that.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
I agree with you @Bob_Luken. But what constitutes pornography? Is it only words or images or is it also the way things are conducted? The sad truth is that many people feel that this is pornography….
And that this is not…
All I know is that I have tried to teach mine to understand the difference. I don’t know what’s right or wrong for anyone else. But I try to know for mine and try to make sure they know for themselves. And that if I ever know of some sumbitch trying to force something onto them that I consider obscene or just plain wrong…well they’re in for a fast drop with a sudden stop.
Sixty years after its original publication, Ray Bradbury’s internationally acclaimed novel Fahrenheit 451 stands as a classic of world literature set in a bleak, dystopian future. Today its message has grown more relevant than ever before.
Guy Montag is a fireman. His job is to destroy the most illegal of commodities, the printed book, along with the houses in which they are hidden. Montag never questions the destruction and ruin his actions produce, returning each day to his bland life and wife, Mildred, who spends all day with her television “family.” But when he meets an eccentric young neighbor, Clarisse, who introduces him to a past where people didn’t live in fear and to a present where one sees the world through the ideas in books instead of the mindless chatter of television, Montag begins to question everything he has ever known.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
@Bob_Luken said:
I don't believe it is unreasonable to ask that no porn be placed in school libraries.
Yeah man but the line to draw ends up being really hard. I mean, are you going to ban every book that has the word diçk in it? The problem with making up a bunch of rules to administrate and make decisions for us is that you'll never get it right. No more Moby Diçk I guess. **** Van Dykes biography has to go, and kids will never know who the vice president was under George w Bush.
I remember reading jaws by Peter Benchley. Checked it out at the school library. It ended up having a really dirty paragraph somewhere near the beginning where the main character was imagining his wife dead. I can still quote it, as a 10-year-old. It was the first time I had ever seen those words written lol.
Should we ban a Pulitzer prize winning book? Because it has one dirty paragraph in 250 pages? Where's the line? Better to let responsible humans make responsible decisions and then hold them accountable when they don't. Just my take.
There used to be a book for that, but it's banned.
.
Probably full of so called hate speach. Full of facts and science.
Oh you mean that global warming book... See man, I had a very nice post above and then I just couldn't help myself. I just had to poke the bear and start a big riot. I'm a terrible human.
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But, I want my milk to come from udders! If there's no udder, there's only one other option, and I don't want any of that "milk".
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Yeah I guess it’s too polarizing because the bulls are claiming they can give milk.
I’m so sick of this bullshìt. Exactly who is it polarizing to??? Who brought up that a cows fúcking udders were offensive??? My guess is ABSOLUTELY NOBODY except the person that came up with this pitiful cry for publicity. Buncha damn idiots. I hate people.
They were riffing on the original M&M madness.
Tennessee is so geographically distant east to west, despite having lived in both the west and the middle sections, I’ve never heard of Weigel’s. I guess it’s a big deal in the east.
Mom Gets Called Down To Daughter's School About The 'Bowtie' The 11-Year-Old Drew On Her Art Project
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/family/mom-gets-called-down-to-daughters-school-about-the-bowtie-the-11-year-old-drew-on-her-art-project/ar-AA16JLbA
https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/?et_rid=873671783&s_campaign=fastforward:newsletter
Not all books have a place in school libraries. For example,... Parents should have the right to prevent librarians and other educators from introducing books to their children that include graphic descriptions of minors performing sex acts. Have you seen the videos of the parents who show up at school board meetings and read aloud from the books in the school libraries? All hell breaks loose at these school board meetings because the school boards cannot bear to hear the words from the books in their own school libraries.
Speaker removed from Orange County School Board meeting for reading from a book found at library
https://youtu.be/nGnMA92oygQ
"We Sucked Each Others' D*cks" -- Mom Reads Sexually Explicit School Library Book to Board
https://youtu.be/fmRPQzwuBsc
FCPS School Board Meeting-Woman Silenced After Reading Pornographic Book From School's Own Library
https://youtu.be/Eog_UDtpaVs
There are plenty more examples.
While mom is demanding censorship at the school board meeting some of the little darlins are home scrolling through porn sites on their cell phones or arranging a hookup with their dealer. The best way to pique the interest of a teenager is to ban something. This is going to backfire in proportion to the strictness of the resistance.
No. They are pushing this deviant behavior in grade school. Making it normal. Grooming.
Oh, I know man, I know, since the kids have porn on their phones anyway, it doesn't matter. Right? I figured I'd get that from Frank. I guess he's out golfing still. He can pile on later I guess.
You are arguing that pornographic materials should be allowed in our schools...
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Hitler knew you have to start your indoctrination early to really make an impression.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
Awesome! While I'm making breakfast for my three kids, you guys are talking about fourth graders sucking each other off. Brilliant! 😂
@Bob_Luken Nice try but you're not going to trigger me brother! Lol 😆 I am proud of three facts. Fact number one, Nevada has zero banned books. Fact number two, a quick search of the CCSD online library lists none of these books in the database, meaning that the library doesn't stock these titles. Fact number three, my children have never read any of these titles.
You don't have to ban books to prevent them from being stocked in a library. Don't know if you know this or not, but you can consciously choose to pass up a book title. It doesn't need to be on a ban list. I'm guessing that Edward feels sort of the same way I do about this. Let us both elect reasonable adults to run our schools, and then trust the judgment of these reasonable adults to do their parts.
It's also okay to be an involved parent! I know what my children are reading partially because I asked them and partially because I know them. Sure, they might do things that I'm unaware of, but so did I and so did you. I do know that my kids don't have pornography on their phones because I actually censor what they can do on their phones and then double check the sensoring procedures. The very first kilobyte of pornography that hits a phone is the very last piece of data that the phone will ever transmit or receive.
I also know this because I set the example for them, and then reinforce that example with conversations and mentoring in a consistent and positive way. My kids are aware of pornography. They are aware that it is often an avenue for human trafficking, and they know what human trafficking is. I'm not afraid of the topic. Parents who are afraid of it and avoid it? Might be in a different predicament.
Thank you, @VegasFrank . I couldn't have said it any better.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
And good spelling too. None of that voice-to-text crap this time.
I'm all for parental involvement in schools and what kids see and hear on their phones. However, I view banning that type of material from schools as part of that involvement.
Bottom line, most parents don't want that rubbish around their kids, so why feel conflicted about banning it from school libraries?
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
Many people feel the same way about religious texts.
I’m not sure that banning anything is the right or wrong answer. Meth is banned, but kids every day get their hands on it. In my opinion it’s like so many other things….it starts at home. If people allow their children to be parented by social media and the internet then that’s what they will base their choices in life on. There are way too many sick people in the damn world. It is our job as parents to protect our children from them; however, I also feel that it is our job to teach them, through whatever means we see fit, and give them the information they need to make good decisions for themselves.
I think I agree with everything you said. It seems to me that folks are generally more receptive to banning religious texts from school than they are the tripe in question. I think religious texts shouldn't be in public schools either.
Training a child up in the way he/she should go is the best way. However, we need to be measured in what we knowingly expose them to, careful to be sure they are mature enough to face whatever it is. We all ban things from our children in our own homes in an effort to protect them until they are ready. I see banning pornogrphic material from schools as an extension of that.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
I don't believe it is unreasonable to ask that no porn be placed in school libraries.
I agree with you @Bob_Luken. But what constitutes pornography? Is it only words or images or is it also the way things are conducted? The sad truth is that many people feel that this is pornography….
And that this is not…
All I know is that I have tried to teach mine to understand the difference. I don’t know what’s right or wrong for anyone else. But I try to know for mine and try to make sure they know for themselves. And that if I ever know of some sumbitch trying to force something onto them that I consider obscene or just plain wrong…well they’re in for a fast drop with a sudden stop.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13079982-fahrenheit-451
Sixty years after its original publication, Ray Bradbury’s internationally acclaimed novel Fahrenheit 451 stands as a classic of world literature set in a bleak, dystopian future. Today its message has grown more relevant than ever before.
Guy Montag is a fireman. His job is to destroy the most illegal of commodities, the printed book, along with the houses in which they are hidden. Montag never questions the destruction and ruin his actions produce, returning each day to his bland life and wife, Mildred, who spends all day with her television “family.” But when he meets an eccentric young neighbor, Clarisse, who introduces him to a past where people didn’t live in fear and to a present where one sees the world through the ideas in books instead of the mindless chatter of television, Montag begins to question everything he has ever known.
I'm so very, very confused.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
Boys have a " p e n i s", girls have a "v a g i n a."
What did you learn at school today, dear?
A clown read us a story, Mommy.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Great book Edward. It was actually required reading for me in school.
There used to be a book for that, but it's banned.
Yeah man but the line to draw ends up being really hard. I mean, are you going to ban every book that has the word diçk in it? The problem with making up a bunch of rules to administrate and make decisions for us is that you'll never get it right. No more Moby Diçk I guess. **** Van Dykes biography has to go, and kids will never know who the vice president was under George w Bush.
I remember reading jaws by Peter Benchley. Checked it out at the school library. It ended up having a really dirty paragraph somewhere near the beginning where the main character was imagining his wife dead. I can still quote it, as a 10-year-old. It was the first time I had ever seen those words written lol.
Should we ban a Pulitzer prize winning book? Because it has one dirty paragraph in 250 pages? Where's the line? Better to let responsible humans make responsible decisions and then hold them accountable when they don't. Just my take.
Probably full of so called hate speach. Full of facts and science.
Oh you mean that global warming book... See man, I had a very nice post above and then I just couldn't help myself. I just had to poke the bear and start a big riot. I'm a terrible human.