Turns out I have been doing it all wrong, don't use water on the burs!
Maybe every three months. I take the burs out, wash and dry them, wash or wipe clean everything else, and the struggle to replace the burs without messing up the grind lever. Usually takes me three tries since I have yet to figure out the proper orientation of the parts.
Here's the recommended way for my Baratza grinder...
Cleaning the stones on my flour grinder was simple, run some rice through a cycle. I wonder if that would work to clean the coffee grinder. The recommended Full Circle™ biodegradable grinder cleaning tablets are stupid expensive and are made from grain.
@Sethbanks711 If you like the coffee it makes, then that's all that matters. There are pros and cons to the all-in-one machines, but until you hit one of the cons, all is well.
@silvermouse coffee prices are at or near their all-time highs. I didn't read that article, probably because it's the prediction de-jour in the coffee world. Harvests are small, weather is bad, etc., and those predictions not only don't typically come to reality, but are based on coffee being a traded commodity. The prices, by the time I see them, aren't going crazy. Coffee might be a buck more now (to me, the roaster) than they were 10 years ago, but I don't think raw material costs are what's driving the retail price of coffee for the end user. But I can see where a roaster that's going through 1,000's of lbs. per month is irritated when it costs him a nickel more per lb. I'm selling a mere 70lbs a month (which takes ~85lbs of green) and I don't have any overhead to talk about, so it's a nothing-burger for me. (first time using that phrase, nothing-burger. I like it.)
As for cleaning burrs, I've had my Barataz Virtuoso for 15+ years and never clean the burrs. The beans I put through it never have any oil on them, so there's nothing rancid in there to affect the flavor. Sure, there are nooks and crannies where coffee grounds will accumulate, but my thinking (might be flawed) is that this coffee that's in those nooks and crannies is staying put, and doesn't affect the new coffee being ground. But, google rice - the right kind of rice is important - rice works fine. There's also a product called Grindz, tablets that you run through the grinder and follow up w/ some coffee beans, that is highly regarded.
https://www.baratza.com/en-us/product/encoretm-esp-zcg495 - I picked up a 2nd encore so I can have 1 at my office and 1 at home. Got sick of using a manual grinder everyday at the office. This newer one has some finer grind settings for espresso but it is noticeably quieter than my original Baratza.
I usually open up the hopper and pull the burrs out once a year or so just to brush off the loose stuff and make sure nothing is lodged in there that shouldn't be.
Team O'Donnell FTW!
"I've got a great cigar collection - it's actually not a collection, because that would imply I wasn't going to smoke ever last one of 'em." - Ron White
That video made me consider my own thought process. There is a sliding scale in my mind for coffee in the wild vs my own roasts and home brewing. I don’t expect anything pleasant when I’m out in the real world. Pleasant would be on the far end of the scale. The good end. The middle of the scale is unoffensive. Offensive to undrinkable is the lower end.
I can't remember the last time I had coffee that I either roasted myself or knew the person who did. It's been years, and it could be counted on one hand how many times it's happened in the last two decades.
@peter4jc said:
I can't remember the last time I had coffee that I either roasted myself or knew the person who did. It's been years, and it could be counted on one hand how many times it's happened in the last two decades.
I've been seeing coffee memes pitying the people who visit family over the holidays and are stuck with bad coffee in bad coffee makers. I can't put my hands on one of these memes right this second to make this post funnier, but I just wanted to say I've called ahead to Peter to have him roast and ship fresh coffee to my Mom in these cases, and I bought her a pretty good one cup coffee maker, so while I'm not quite as extreme as Peter, I'd say that I drink 99% my own coffee or coffee from Peter.
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I remember when I started roasting my own coffee and began traveling with a pour over dripper, a decent hand grinder, a gooseneck kettle, filters. It was a pain in the ass. I decided it was not worth the trouble in some cases. When I visited Mom & Dad he preferred his coffee to mine. Dad uses an old drip coffee maker and grounds from a can of folgers or maxwellhouse. I'm not sure which because the container is long gone, and the grounds and a small scoop are kept in a tupperware container. The grounds go stale way before they are used up. The wet grounds stay in the basket for the rest of the day or in some cases all night. The basket doesn't often get rinsed unless some stray grounds need to be swished out. People are often set in their ways. I haven't taken my kit to Dad's in a long time. I drink his coffee and say thank you for each refill. Dad won't be around forever. He still makes excellent biscuits from scratch, sausage and gravy. I'll miss that. I wonder if I'll miss that coffee.
Climate change is threatening to destroy Kenya’s coffee industry. Coffee has been grown in Kenya’s humid mountainous regions since its introduction by British colonialists in 1890, and Kenyan coffee is world-famous. But the crop needs very specific conditions, and is sensitive to even small climatic changes. Shifting rainfall patterns have left some farmers struggling to irrigate crops, and diseases are spreading more rapidly. Farmers are trying adaptive techniques such as growing trees to shade the plants, or simply resorting to more pesticides, which can be damaging to soil. Coffee production has fallen in recent years, pushing many laborers — most of whom earn $2.30 a day — further into poverty.
At 38 F, my coffee got cold too quickly this morning. I sit under a patio heater, but I don't turn it on. what am I waiting for? I guess with enough layers it's not a big problem. I sit out here while my dogs are comfy indoors on blankets on the couch. I have to go check periodically to see what the Hell Mutt is up to in there.
I've heard stories of people really into coffee upgrading their parents gear to the point where their mom or dad don't know how to make coffee anymore, it's important not to break longstanding routines. I was lucky that my Mom was interested in switching from a coffee pot to single serve after my dad died, she picked it up pretty well and she can make herself a cup any time of the day. She uses the adapters where you can use your own ground coffee and paper filters to brew instead of buying pods or capsules. It does a good job but makes coffee on the weak side for me, but my mom likes to drink coffee all day so she usually drinks it weaker.
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@MrShrek
How often do you guys clean your burr grinder? I use my air compressor.
Anyone ever used one of these? My coworker gave it to me. Built in burr grinder and all. Is this unholy in the coffee world?
Turns out I have been doing it all wrong, don't use water on the burs!
Maybe every three months. I take the burs out, wash and dry them, wash or wipe clean everything else, and the struggle to replace the burs without messing up the grind lever. Usually takes me three tries since I have yet to figure out the proper orientation of the parts.
Here's the recommended way for my Baratza grinder...
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1631755/Baratza-Sette-30.html?page=11#manual
Cleaning the stones on my flour grinder was simple, run some rice through a cycle. I wonder if that would work to clean the coffee grinder. The recommended Full Circle™ biodegradable grinder cleaning tablets are stupid expensive and are made from grain.
Heads up, coffee bean prices expected to perhaps double this coming harvest. @peter4jc what have you heard?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2125525777467682/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=9207386695948186
@Sethbanks711 If you like the coffee it makes, then that's all that matters. There are pros and cons to the all-in-one machines, but until you hit one of the cons, all is well.
@silvermouse coffee prices are at or near their all-time highs. I didn't read that article, probably because it's the prediction de-jour in the coffee world. Harvests are small, weather is bad, etc., and those predictions not only don't typically come to reality, but are based on coffee being a traded commodity. The prices, by the time I see them, aren't going crazy. Coffee might be a buck more now (to me, the roaster) than they were 10 years ago, but I don't think raw material costs are what's driving the retail price of coffee for the end user. But I can see where a roaster that's going through 1,000's of lbs. per month is irritated when it costs him a nickel more per lb. I'm selling a mere 70lbs a month (which takes ~85lbs of green) and I don't have any overhead to talk about, so it's a nothing-burger for me. (first time using that phrase, nothing-burger. I like it.)
As for cleaning burrs, I've had my Barataz Virtuoso for 15+ years and never clean the burrs. The beans I put through it never have any oil on them, so there's nothing rancid in there to affect the flavor. Sure, there are nooks and crannies where coffee grounds will accumulate, but my thinking (might be flawed) is that this coffee that's in those nooks and crannies is staying put, and doesn't affect the new coffee being ground. But, google rice - the right kind of rice is important - rice works fine. There's also a product called Grindz, tablets that you run through the grinder and follow up w/ some coffee beans, that is highly regarded.
Coffee before coffee, 53.1 grams.
I found some coffee in the bowl of the cupboard above my coffee maker, so they lofted up to two feet above my scale when the incident happened.
we need a ??? button for when a wtf is inappropriate.
Yes, that photo needs some explanation.
Found on Instagram.
well, that''s a relief. I was afraid you were having a horrible coffee day.
Turned off the water to your bidet?
I know, You're a big dog and I'm on the list.
Let's eat, GrandMa. / Let's eat GrandMa. -- Punctuation saves lives
It'll be fine once the swelling goes down.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/20/business/china-starbucks-braised-pork-latte-intl-hnk/index.html
Pork flavored coffee is Starbucks’ newest China pitch
To be honest, some of the roasts of the Liberica coffee I got from the Philippines tasted pretty meaty.
Just no.
Maybe Charlie can make pork flavored coffee ice cream.
I think I made maple bacon once! Didn’t sell, so I’ll pass on the coffee pork!
https://www.baratza.com/en-us/product/encoretm-esp-zcg495 - I picked up a 2nd encore so I can have 1 at my office and 1 at home. Got sick of using a manual grinder everyday at the office. This newer one has some finer grind settings for espresso but it is noticeably quieter than my original Baratza.
I usually open up the hopper and pull the burrs out once a year or so just to brush off the loose stuff and make sure nothing is lodged in there that shouldn't be.
"I've got a great cigar collection - it's actually not a collection, because that would imply I wasn't going to smoke ever last one of 'em." - Ron White
^^^ baller.
Nest emptied.
That video made me consider my own thought process. There is a sliding scale in my mind for coffee in the wild vs my own roasts and home brewing. I don’t expect anything pleasant when I’m out in the real world. Pleasant would be on the far end of the scale. The good end. The middle of the scale is unoffensive. Offensive to undrinkable is the lower end.
I can't remember the last time I had coffee that I either roasted myself or knew the person who did. It's been years, and it could be counted on one hand how many times it's happened in the last two decades.
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Peter's dirty secret is out, he's a closet Starbuck's addict.
I've been seeing coffee memes pitying the people who visit family over the holidays and are stuck with bad coffee in bad coffee makers. I can't put my hands on one of these memes right this second to make this post funnier, but I just wanted to say I've called ahead to Peter to have him roast and ship fresh coffee to my Mom in these cases, and I bought her a pretty good one cup coffee maker, so while I'm not quite as extreme as Peter, I'd say that I drink 99% my own coffee or coffee from Peter.
I remember when I started roasting my own coffee and began traveling with a pour over dripper, a decent hand grinder, a gooseneck kettle, filters. It was a pain in the ass. I decided it was not worth the trouble in some cases. When I visited Mom & Dad he preferred his coffee to mine. Dad uses an old drip coffee maker and grounds from a can of folgers or maxwellhouse. I'm not sure which because the container is long gone, and the grounds and a small scoop are kept in a tupperware container. The grounds go stale way before they are used up. The wet grounds stay in the basket for the rest of the day or in some cases all night. The basket doesn't often get rinsed unless some stray grounds need to be swished out. People are often set in their ways. I haven't taken my kit to Dad's in a long time. I drink his coffee and say thank you for each refill. Dad won't be around forever. He still makes excellent biscuits from scratch, sausage and gravy. I'll miss that. I wonder if I'll miss that coffee.
reporting from Semafor:
Climate change is threatening to destroy Kenya’s coffee industry. Coffee has been grown in Kenya’s humid mountainous regions since its introduction by British colonialists in 1890, and Kenyan coffee is world-famous. But the crop needs very specific conditions, and is sensitive to even small climatic changes. Shifting rainfall patterns have left some farmers struggling to irrigate crops, and diseases are spreading more rapidly. Farmers are trying adaptive techniques such as growing trees to shade the plants, or simply resorting to more pesticides, which can be damaging to soil. Coffee production has fallen in recent years, pushing many laborers — most of whom earn $2.30 a day — further into poverty.
At 38 F, my coffee got cold too quickly this morning. I sit under a patio heater, but I don't turn it on. what am I waiting for? I guess with enough layers it's not a big problem. I sit out here while my dogs are comfy indoors on blankets on the couch. I have to go check periodically to see what the Hell Mutt is up to in there.
I've heard stories of people really into coffee upgrading their parents gear to the point where their mom or dad don't know how to make coffee anymore, it's important not to break longstanding routines. I was lucky that my Mom was interested in switching from a coffee pot to single serve after my dad died, she picked it up pretty well and she can make herself a cup any time of the day. She uses the adapters where you can use your own ground coffee and paper filters to brew instead of buying pods or capsules. It does a good job but makes coffee on the weak side for me, but my mom likes to drink coffee all day so she usually drinks it weaker.