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@edz said:
Far from being the first time in history where most folks blame or credit the govt, but very little individual action is taken
Are you advocating we start dealing with illegals on a personal and individual level? Is it appropriate to use firearms, are should we stick with lynching?
Is violence the only option you are leaving open?
We can ask them politely to leave, but without government assistance I don't see a lot of individual action that can be taken...
In 1964 or 65 immigration laws were changed and an giant loophole was put into them that allowed a large influx of people coming here. Bill Clinton put someone in a position to stop this, liberal black (women of color... please fill in you own words to make this as non racist as possible), a democrat from Texas, and in words she did. Obama talked about putting an end to folks coming over without approval. This seems to be more than a political issue. As long as folks are paying them nothing will be done. Many commercial beekeepers bring folks over yearly to work a season. These folks get paid well, and have a ton of rights and benefits that they must be given under H-2A laws. If folks were forced to pay fair amount of money for labor (no this is not a union or non union issue) it may help. Shoot, many of the workers earn an entire s year income and really do not want to stay here. Just wondering how much more difficult ( if it is) for folks that want to come here compared to other countries. Perhaps we need to take a look at our process and see if it needs to be adjusted to help the folks we want as neighbors to get here. Definitely do not have all if any of the answers, at the same time have no problem with neighbors No matter where they are from. (as far as neighbors keep some distance, no matter who it is, I do like my space lol)
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This may explain some of the angst regarding taxpayer dollars being spent on medical care for illegals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n0ywgpt0Dc
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
In 1964 or 65 immigration laws were changed and an giant loophole was put into them that allowed a large influx of people coming here. Bill Clinton put someone in a position to stop this, liberal black (women of color... please fill in you own words to make this as non racist as possible), a democrat from Texas, and in words she did. Obama talked about putting an end to folks coming over without approval. This seems to be more than a political issue. As long as folks are paying them nothing will be done. Many commercial beekeepers bring folks over yearly to work a season. These folks get paid well, and have a ton of rights and benefits that they must be given under H-2A laws. If folks were forced to pay fair amount of money for labor (no this is not a union or non union issue) it may help. Shoot, many of the workers earn an entire s year income and really do not want to stay here. Just wondering how much more difficult ( if it is) for folks that want to come here compared to other countries. Perhaps we need to take a look at our process and see if it needs to be adjusted to help the folks we want as neighbors to get here. Definitely do not have all if any of the answers, at the same time have no problem with neighbors No matter where they are from. (as far as neighbors keep some distance, no matter who it is, I do like my space lol)