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  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:
    Do I have to start another thread for you two? Jesus.

    Might have to lol. But he probably wants to tell me to F off again so let’s give him the opportunity.

  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:
    All the positive things he has done have been either overshadowed or completely erased. They say a lot of dictators have done really good things for their country. But again at what cost? If somebody does about 27 bad things you know it’s OK to say man. This guy might actually suck. Again, let’s see your character. Tell me the three things you think he has done well. I guarantee holes can be shot through at least two out of the three.

    I’ll play along even if you hate doesn’t allow you too

    1. Funding of HBCU’s 2. I like what ICE is doing 3. First step act
  • NorthSideSmoke
    NorthSideSmoke Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And to add to this let’s point out another clear distinction between left and right.

    4 woman have accused congressmen Swalwell of sexual misconduct. Democrats have demanded an investigation and say if found true he needs to resign.

    The GOP are still calling the 26 women who accused Trump of the same thing, liars. No mention at all of investigating the facts.

    They don’t get it, never will and this is where we are as a country.

  • peter4jc
    peter4jc Posts: 18,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think that's Trump trying to be Jesus; it's just the Donald laying hands on all the haters and healing our nation. LOL

    Edit: never mind me. I don't have the energy to enter the fray, and my heart can't handle any more negativity, but...

    "I could've had a Mi Querida!"   Nick Bardis
  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    All the positive things he has done have been either overshadowed or completely erased. They say a lot of dictators have done really good things for their country. But again at what cost? If somebody does about 27 bad things you know it’s OK to say man. This guy might actually suck. Again, let’s see your character. Tell me the three things you think he has done well. I guarantee holes can be shot through at least two out of the three.

    I’ll play along even if you hate doesn’t allow you too

    1. Funding of HBCU’s 2. I like what ICE is doing 3. First step act
    1. Cut funding for programs that support HBC as well as many other programs for schools and education
    2. Of course you do. (How do you really feel about Alex and Renee)
    3. Can’t really argue that. 2018 seems so long ago doesn’t it? Feels like forever ago that both R and D came together for a bipartisan federal law to be enacted and then signed into law by Donald Trump. But he did sign it.
  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    And to add to this let’s point out another clear distinction between left and right.

    4 woman have accused congressmen Swalwell of sexual misconduct. Democrats have demanded an investigation and say if found true he needs to resign.

    The GOP are still calling the 26 women who accused Trump of the same thing, liars. No mention at all of investigating the facts.

    They don’t get it, never will and this is where we are as a country.

    Forum 5er on it gets better or worse over the next two years.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

  • NorthSideSmoke
    NorthSideSmoke Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No my favorite is MAGA claiming the 14th doesn’t say “birthright citizenship” so that’s not what the founders meant.

    Meanwhile the 2nd doesn’t say “assault rifles” either, but you know…..

  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    All the positive things he has done have been either overshadowed or completely erased. They say a lot of dictators have done really good things for their country. But again at what cost? If somebody does about 27 bad things you know it’s OK to say man. This guy might actually suck. Again, let’s see your character. Tell me the three things you think he has done well. I guarantee holes can be shot through at least two out of the three.

    I’ll play along even if you hate doesn’t allow you too

    1. Funding of HBCU’s 2. I like what ICE is doing 3. First step act
    1. Cut funding for programs that support HBC as well as many other programs for schools and education
    2. Of course you do. (How do you really feel about Alex and Renee)
    3. Can’t really argue that. 2018 seems so long ago doesn’t it? Feels like forever ago that both R and D came together for a bipartisan federal law to be enacted and then signed into law by Donald Trump. But he did sign it.
    1. Yes he cut some wasteful spending but also made some permanent. 2. Yes I do and I liked it when Clinton and Obama did it. In regards to Pretti and Renee based on the evidence they were preventable but justified. If they were just protesting they would be fine or if MN worked with ICE like they did under Obama they might not have been radicalized. 3. It has been a long time but if you look at people with opposing views as the enemy then it won’t change. Trump is part of the problem there but so are Dem leaders who oppose him even though they advocated for what he is doing in the past. If you can’t find at least some things that the opposition did right the divide will never close.
  • Amos_Umwhat
    Amos_Umwhat Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:
    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

    Wasn’t it Obama that sued AZ over this and believe fast track deportations started under Clinton. Neither is new the only difference is you hate the person doing it.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 7:32PM

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

    Wasn’t it Obama that sued AZ over this and believe fast track deportations started under Clinton. Neither is new the only difference is you hate the person doing it.

    No I dislike people like you. You’re clearly sick. “In regards to Pretti and Renee based on the evidence they were preventable but justified.” Any sane person can see that neither were justified. I bet you didn’t even watch the videos. Trump told you so, so it is. You’re full of hate. You hate those who don’t look like you, think like you, act like you. Executing Americans and you’re cool with it. Fucķed up bro. I bet you’re a riot at birthday parties.

  • NorthSideSmoke
    NorthSideSmoke Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More like it.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    More like it.

    This might be the first time we disagree. I think he’s grossly under qualified to work at McDonald’s.

  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

    Wasn’t it Obama that sued AZ over this and believe fast track deportations started under Clinton. Neither is new the only difference is you hate the person doing it.

    No I dislike people like you. You’re clearly sick. “In regards to Pretti and Renee based on the evidence they were preventable but justified.” Any sane person can see that neither were justified. I bet you didn’t even watch the videos. Trump told you so, so it is. You’re full of hate. You hate those who don’t look like you, think like you, act like you. Executing Americans and you’re cool with it. Fucķed up bro. I bet you’re a riot at birthday parties.

    I really hope you get some help, life is too short to be that bitter and hateful.

  • NorthSideSmoke
    NorthSideSmoke Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

    Wasn’t it Obama that sued AZ over this and believe fast track deportations started under Clinton. Neither is new the only difference is you hate the person doing it.

    No I dislike people like you. You’re clearly sick. “In regards to Pretti and Renee based on the evidence they were preventable but justified.” Any sane person can see that neither were justified. I bet you didn’t even watch the videos. Trump told you so, so it is. You’re full of hate. You hate those who don’t look like you, think like you, act like you. Executing Americans and you’re cool with it. Fucķed up bro. I bet you’re a riot at birthday parties.

    I really hope you get some help, life is too short to be that bitter and hateful.

    Dude, if you watched Alex Pretti get shot in the back while unarmed and said to yourself “justified” you’re not only sick in the head you’re devoid of humanity.

  • aditmars@hotmail.com
    aditmars@hotmail.com Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorthSideSmoke said:

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:

    @aditmars@hotmail.com said:

    @Vision said:
    Trumpty sending in ICE into states that said that they wanted them out.

    Can’t wait till the Democrats send in a masked task force to take firearms.

    And yes… 2A protects those weapons and 5A protects Due Process. Conservatives can sign up for mental gymnastics below.

    Wasn’t it Obama that sued AZ over this and believe fast track deportations started under Clinton. Neither is new the only difference is you hate the person doing it.

    No I dislike people like you. You’re clearly sick. “In regards to Pretti and Renee based on the evidence they were preventable but justified.” Any sane person can see that neither were justified. I bet you didn’t even watch the videos. Trump told you so, so it is. You’re full of hate. You hate those who don’t look like you, think like you, act like you. Executing Americans and you’re cool with it. Fucķed up bro. I bet you’re a riot at birthday parties.

    I really hope you get some help, life is too short to be that bitter and hateful.

    Dude, if you watched Alex Pretti get shot in the back while unarmed and said to yourself “justified” you’re not only sick in the head you’re devoid of humanity.

    Yes justified but that doesn’t mean I am glad it went down like that. But I’ve seen your posts so don’t expect you to think critically.

  • ShawnOL
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    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    No my favorite is MAGA claiming the 14th doesn’t say “birthright citizenship” so that’s not what the founders meant.

    Meanwhile the 2nd doesn’t say “assault rifles” either, but you know…..

    Actually, the 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, so not the nation's founders. Also, the 2nd Amendment states "arms" as in ALL arms, not just just the ones that arent scary looking to anti-gunners. SCOTUS has even clarified that to mean all bearable arms. If you can sling ot over your shoulder, fire it from the shoulder, its bearable. Even by squeamish lefties.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    No my favorite is MAGA claiming the 14th doesn’t say “birthright citizenship” so that’s not what the founders meant.

    Meanwhile the 2nd doesn’t say “assault rifles” either, but you know…..

    Actually, the 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, so not the nation's founders. Also, the 2nd Amendment states "arms" as in ALL arms, not just just the ones that arent scary looking to anti-gunners. SCOTUS has even clarified that to mean all bearable arms. If you can sling ot over your shoulder, fire it from the shoulder, its bearable. Even by squeamish lefties.

    You forgot the part about the well regulated militia… Again

  • ShawnOL
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    edited 8:35PM

    Well regulated, as in working properly. Ie: well regulated clock. A properly working militia is well equipped (as any soldier of his time) and as familiar and trained on its equipment as and regular soldier of his time). Still trying to reiinterpret the plain text of the amendment., I see.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • NorthSideSmoke
    NorthSideSmoke Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    No my favorite is MAGA claiming the 14th doesn’t say “birthright citizenship” so that’s not what the founders meant.

    Meanwhile the 2nd doesn’t say “assault rifles” either, but you know…..

    Actually, the 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, so not the nation's founders. Also, the 2nd Amendment states "arms" as in ALL arms, not just just the ones that arent scary looking to anti-gunners. SCOTUS has even clarified that to mean all bearable arms. If you can sling ot over your shoulder, fire it from the shoulder, its bearable. Even by squeamish lefties.

    Yeah, they were talking about muskets. I mean if we’re going to get technical right? If that’s the rabbit hole you’re actually going to go down.

    But I forget, we’re talking to the “a few school shooting are worth it if we get to keep our assault rifles” crowd.

    Firearms are the number killer of children ages 1-19. But yeah, it’s me who is wrong to think we might want to fix that.

    MAGA is soulless. Prove me wrong.

  • dirtdude
    dirtdude Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ib think the 14th amendment needs to be looked at a little more

    A little dirt never hurt
  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:
    Well regulated, as in working properly. Ie: well regulated clock. A properly working militia is well equipped (as any soldier of his time) and as familiar and trained on its equipment as and regular soldier of his time). Still trying to reiinterpret the plain text of the amendment., I see.

    No … well regulated as in overseen by the government. Still trying to reiinterpret the plain text of the amendment., I see.

    “Regulated refers to something controlled, managed, or adjusted by rules, laws, or authorized restrictions“

    a
    to govern or direct according to rule
    b
    (1)
    to bring under the control of law or constituted authority
    (2)
    to make regulations for or concerning
    regulate the industries of a country
    2
    to bring order, method, or uniformity to

    They don’t mention a clock

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorthSideSmoke said:

    @ShawnOL said:

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    No my favorite is MAGA claiming the 14th doesn’t say “birthright citizenship” so that’s not what the founders meant.

    Meanwhile the 2nd doesn’t say “assault rifles” either, but you know…..

    Actually, the 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, so not the nation's founders. Also, the 2nd Amendment states "arms" as in ALL arms, not just just the ones that arent scary looking to anti-gunners. SCOTUS has even clarified that to mean all bearable arms. If you can sling ot over your shoulder, fire it from the shoulder, its bearable. Even by squeamish lefties.

    Yeah, they were talking about muskets. I mean if we’re going to get technical right? If that’s the rabbit hole you’re actually going to go down.

    But I forget, we’re talking to the “a few school shooting are worth it if we get to keep our assault rifles” crowd.

    Firearms are the number killer of children ages 1-19. But yeah, it’s me who is wrong to think we might want to fix that.

    MAGA is soulless. Prove me wrong.

    Hey man… thoughts and prayers. Muhright?

  • Vision
    Vision Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorthSideSmoke said:
    And to add to this let’s point out another clear distinction between left and right.

    4 woman have accused congressmen Swalwell of sexual misconduct. Democrats have demanded an investigation and say if found true he needs to resign.

    The GOP are still calling the 26 women who accused Trump of the same thing, liars. No mention at all of investigating the facts.

    They don’t get it, never will and this is where we are as a country.

    Swalwell stepping down. Now an investigation into if he did it and if he did, criminal charges.