Inspired by my comrades posts above, I broke out a little McClelland's Cyprian Mixture 2040 this morning and loaded it into the Stanwell Revival Elephant Foot this morning. Nice start for the day.
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Strong Mac Baren HH Old Dark Fired in my Norm Triptow "Lava Lamp" mod cob. It tastes like a tangy BBQ sauce. I had stuck the tin in Mylar to keep it from drying out only to find that caused the tin to start rusting, so I took the tobacco out of the tin and put it in the Mylar bag.
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On this thread, Per Georg Jensesn himself said:
I was very concerned reading the discussions on Pipesmagazine.com and I do feel like adding a few comments to the issue of the rusting edges on the HH Old Dark Fired tins. Hopefully this will allay some of the consumers concerns and ensure that we do value consumer feedback as it helps us make a better product.
First of all the tobaccos in the HH line is made under a quite different concept than all other Mac Baren tobaccos. This concept is of purity and as natural as we possibly can make the tobacco. This means that only a few things are added to the tobacco as a slight casing, and no top flavor at all. One of the few things added are vinegar, which is used for taste but also as a preservative.
Vinegar is an acid and will over time get in contact with the tin, and make it rust, but this is no way compromises the vacuum or the tobacco. However, the most important factor in this is the fact that the rust does not have any influence on either the smell or the taste. The tobacco will still taste and smoke like it always did.
The second issue is whether the tins hold the vacuum or not. The HH Old Dark Fired was introduced in May 2012. I have today opened a tin of HH Old Dark Fired packed in July 2012 (second batch), and the vacuum were intact and only the top edge were rusted. I filled my pipe, lit it and enjoyed a 45 minutes smoke, and there were no difference in taste, as I knew before even lightning up. At Mac Baren it is our goal to produce the very highest quality tobacco that will stand the test of time.
Without mentioning names I checked tins from other manufactures (which I keep in my office), and every manufacturer who produces this kind of almost pure tobacco using vinegar, had the same problem with rust in the tin, as long as they have sold tobacco in tins with vacuum.
I suspected this would happen for the HH Old Dark Fired, but for me it was natural and a result of the process that makes the HH series so unique. We are looking into ways to adjust the packaging material to avoid any rusting, but that is a work in progress. The unique qualities of the tobacco are such some reaction with the vinegar and metal may cause rust on the edge of the tin, but do not compromise the tobacco in any way. That is why I was so concerned reading the posts on pipesmagazine.com and why now I want to assure you the quality of the tobacco has not been compromised. Please feel free in the future to contact Mac Baren directly to address any questions or concerns you may have. (info@mac-baren.com)
The HH Old Dark Fired tobacco was composed to be smoked within a short period of time; however I do know the American way of cellaring the tobacco for years. My suggestion is, that you tap on the lid to hear if the vacuum is still OK, before you start taking the tobacco out of the tin. Try to tap a tin with vacuum and an open tin; you can clearly hear the difference in sound. Only when the vacuum is gone, you should think about putting the tobacco into jars. But, it will take many, many years before the vacuum disappears.
I have understood what was written in on pipesmagazine.com and will of course see which means we have to avoid rust on the edge. We at Mac Baren feel confident that the smell and taste of the tobacco has not been compromised, but will look into the matter with great importance.
It is my hope that everybody understands that rust do not have any influence on smell and taste, and also that the vacuum will keep for many, many years.
Finally, I will be present at the Chicago Pipe Show 2014, so everybody who has a question is very welcome to come to my table and ask me.
Happy smoke
Good to know. That has become one of my favorite smokes. I have several tins that I know haven’t been around long enough to rust but I’ll definitely check just to see.
I couldn't wait any longer, I had to give my tiny home pressed plug of C&D 2021 CRF+P (Carolina Red Flake + Perique) a try, even though it's been aging only 11 days, so I sliced off a couple of small flakes to rub out and smoke in my tiny clay pipe.
To me, going from memory, it seems stronger and more flavorful than the original CRF+P, and the perique is giving a spicy, nose tingling sensation.
I need to come up with a good pipe rest for this tiny clay pipe. I've knocked it off the scissors twice and the one I made out of a scrap piece of aluminum foil isn't very classy.
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@Yakster said:
Nice pipe and great tobacco, Steve.
I'm noticing that CRF+P Plug really dried out my mouth.
TYVM Chris. I should mention that the Frog on the Town was from a trade with @NorCalR1, been waiting for the right time to open the tin. Smoked very nicely in the new Musico. I didn't really expect it to be quite that tiny, but it smoked great and will really fit great in the pouch.
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Last night I enjoyed Match Carter Hall in a FalCob, this morning I tried KBV Dark Fired Cherry in my MM Morgan with a Vermont Freehand acrylic stem. The jury is still out on the KBV blend.
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nice pipe hangers. Remind me of big game hunter trophies.
Thanks, Edward! Now I want to mount some humorous heads on the wall and have them hold pipes in their mouths.
Maybe something like this. By the way, my kids really hate this mask.
Deep Hollow from @NorCalR1 in a J. Everett pipe. Thanks David, amazing tobacco!
BriarWorks back down south in a Molina
silvermoused it last night. Plum pudding in a genod while washing windows.
Deep Hollow in a Monier prince.
@NorCalR1 ...thanks!
That Deep Hollow is tasty stuff.
Trying out some GL Pease Windjammer in my AKB small Dublin lattice meer.
Inspired by my comrades posts above, I broke out a little McClelland's Cyprian Mixture 2040 this morning and loaded it into the Stanwell Revival Elephant Foot this morning. Nice start for the day.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
KBV plateau of leng in a Stanwell
Watch City Simply Orange Preview in my Norm Triptow "Lava Lamp" mod cob.
Strong Mac Baren HH Old Dark Fired in my Norm Triptow "Lava Lamp" mod cob. It tastes like a tangy BBQ sauce. I had stuck the tin in Mylar to keep it from drying out only to find that caused the tin to start rusting, so I took the tobacco out of the tin and put it in the Mylar bag.
Was that from the first release? Common for those tins to do that, not because you stuck it in a bag, Chris.
Not sure, bought it last year.
Hmm, guess they haven't fixed the problem. It was the tobacco, not the tin, salt in the sauce or something.
On this thread, Per Georg Jensesn himself said:
I was very concerned reading the discussions on Pipesmagazine.com and I do feel like adding a few comments to the issue of the rusting edges on the HH Old Dark Fired tins. Hopefully this will allay some of the consumers concerns and ensure that we do value consumer feedback as it helps us make a better product.
First of all the tobaccos in the HH line is made under a quite different concept than all other Mac Baren tobaccos. This concept is of purity and as natural as we possibly can make the tobacco. This means that only a few things are added to the tobacco as a slight casing, and no top flavor at all. One of the few things added are vinegar, which is used for taste but also as a preservative.
Vinegar is an acid and will over time get in contact with the tin, and make it rust, but this is no way compromises the vacuum or the tobacco. However, the most important factor in this is the fact that the rust does not have any influence on either the smell or the taste. The tobacco will still taste and smoke like it always did.
The second issue is whether the tins hold the vacuum or not. The HH Old Dark Fired was introduced in May 2012. I have today opened a tin of HH Old Dark Fired packed in July 2012 (second batch), and the vacuum were intact and only the top edge were rusted. I filled my pipe, lit it and enjoyed a 45 minutes smoke, and there were no difference in taste, as I knew before even lightning up. At Mac Baren it is our goal to produce the very highest quality tobacco that will stand the test of time.
Without mentioning names I checked tins from other manufactures (which I keep in my office), and every manufacturer who produces this kind of almost pure tobacco using vinegar, had the same problem with rust in the tin, as long as they have sold tobacco in tins with vacuum.
I suspected this would happen for the HH Old Dark Fired, but for me it was natural and a result of the process that makes the HH series so unique. We are looking into ways to adjust the packaging material to avoid any rusting, but that is a work in progress. The unique qualities of the tobacco are such some reaction with the vinegar and metal may cause rust on the edge of the tin, but do not compromise the tobacco in any way. That is why I was so concerned reading the posts on pipesmagazine.com and why now I want to assure you the quality of the tobacco has not been compromised. Please feel free in the future to contact Mac Baren directly to address any questions or concerns you may have. (info@mac-baren.com)
The HH Old Dark Fired tobacco was composed to be smoked within a short period of time; however I do know the American way of cellaring the tobacco for years. My suggestion is, that you tap on the lid to hear if the vacuum is still OK, before you start taking the tobacco out of the tin. Try to tap a tin with vacuum and an open tin; you can clearly hear the difference in sound. Only when the vacuum is gone, you should think about putting the tobacco into jars. But, it will take many, many years before the vacuum disappears.
I have understood what was written in on pipesmagazine.com and will of course see which means we have to avoid rust on the edge. We at Mac Baren feel confident that the smell and taste of the tobacco has not been compromised, but will look into the matter with great importance.
It is my hope that everybody understands that rust do not have any influence on smell and taste, and also that the vacuum will keep for many, many years.
Finally, I will be present at the Chicago Pipe Show 2014, so everybody who has a question is very welcome to come to my table and ask me.
Happy smoke
Per Georg Jensen
Brand Manager – Pipe Tobacco
Good to know. That has become one of my favorite smokes. I have several tins that I know haven’t been around long enough to rust but I’ll definitely check just to see.
Thanks for the research, @silvermouse. It does definitely taste like a vinegar based BBQ sauce. Tasty stuff.
I couldn't wait any longer, I had to give my tiny home pressed plug of C&D 2021 CRF+P (Carolina Red Flake + Perique) a try, even though it's been aging only 11 days, so I sliced off a couple of small flakes to rub out and smoke in my tiny clay pipe.
To me, going from memory, it seems stronger and more flavorful than the original CRF+P, and the perique is giving a spicy, nose tingling sensation.
I need to come up with a good pipe rest for this tiny clay pipe. I've knocked it off the scissors twice and the one I made out of a scrap piece of aluminum foil isn't very classy.
CRF+P + Plug turns the flavor up to 11.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Nice pipe and great tobacco, Steve.
I'm noticing that CRF+P Plug really dried out my mouth.
TYVM Chris. I should mention that the Frog on the Town was from a trade with @NorCalR1, been waiting for the right time to open the tin. Smoked very nicely in the new Musico. I didn't really expect it to be quite that tiny, but it smoked great and will really fit great in the pouch.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
I concur.
Last night I enjoyed Match Carter Hall in a FalCob, this morning I tried KBV Dark Fired Cherry in my MM Morgan with a Vermont Freehand acrylic stem. The jury is still out on the KBV blend.
Edward G. Robinson's Pipe Blend in the Morgan. It doesn't taste right, I'm going to give this cob a sun bath today.