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  • silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 21,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe his drug use. It would be interesting to see what a surprise drug/breathalyzer screening would turn up for everyone entering Capitol Hill.

  • silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 21,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worst case scenario-- the middle class will be left holding the bag, again. Cost of goods will rise, if the market crashes so will my IRA.

    Kevin Lamarque/Reuters
    Stock markets tanked after US President Donald Trump ordered tariffs on Canada, China, and Mexico — and vowed the European Union would be next. Investors fled to haven assets, with the dollar surging and gold briefly hitting a record, while Asian and European stocks fell as traders digested what The Wall Street Journal called “the dumbest trade war in history” and what the Financial Times characterized as an “absurdity.” Trump acknowledged that Americans would feel “pain,” but insisted the measures would be worth it. In a sign of potential respite, the president said he would hold calls with Canada’s and Mexico’s leaders, though both, as well as Beijing and Brussels, have promised retaliatory tariffs.

    Brandon Bell/File Photo/Reuters
    Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency gained access to the US federal payment system, allowing him to monitor and potentially control government spending. President Donald Trump wants Musk and DOGE to slash outgoings, part of the new administration’s focus on austerity. Trump ordered, then rescinded, a freeze on much government spending in his first days, but The New York Times estimated that 8,000 government websites remain down, apparently because they contained language related to diversity initiatives. Musk’s political clout appears to be growing: Several major US companies have begun making or emphasizing links to him, the Financial Times noted: Visa is cutting a payments deal with X, while United Airlines is rushing to use Starlink for inflight WiFi.

  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3

    I think what he did with his hand was lousy too. I would ask him if I had the chance “What the hell was that s*** you just did out there? That was crazy man.

    But still way better than Kamala.

  • VisionVision Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob_Luken said:
    I think what he did with his hand was lousy too. I would ask him if I had the chance “What the hell was that s*** you just did out there? That was crazy man.

    But still way better than Kamala.

    Conjecture. You'll never know.

  • StubbleStubble Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @Bob_Luken said:
    I think what he did with his hand was lousy too. I would ask him if I had the chance “What the hell was that s*** you just did out there? That was crazy man.

    But still way better than Kamala.

    Conjecture. You'll never know.

    Good.

    Hey, you gonna eat the rest of that corndog?
  • TRayBTRayB Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both Canada and Mexico folded like wet blankets, after a few days of empty posturing.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

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  • StubbleStubble Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Semantics.

    Hey, you gonna eat the rest of that corndog?
  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stubble said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Semantics.

    I think you guys are misusing that word

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  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    He didn't?

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob_Luken said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    He didn't?

    Not that I know of....

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  • ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 10,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    10% on china.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • TRayBTRayB Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

  • silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 21,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trump, Hosting Israel's Leader, Proposes the U.S. Take Over Gaza
    At a news conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, President Trump said he wanted the United States to take over Gaza in an “ownership position,” and declared that all Palestinians there — some two million people — should leave.

  • VegasFrankVegasFrank Posts: 18,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TRayB said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

    Yeah, themz iz scurry Canadians with their syrup and ice hockey, eh?

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  • VisionVision Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:

    @TRayB said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

    Yeah, themz iz scurry Canadians with their syrup and ice hockey, eh?

    Don't forget some shiiittttyy beer too.

  • TRayBTRayB Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasFrank said:

    @TRayB said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

    Yeah, themz iz scurry Canadians with their syrup and ice hockey, eh?

    While those are possibly the two most important Canadian exports, outgoing PM Trudeau fairly expressed Canada's neighborly shortcomings by committing hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of troops to help secure the border, and begin to come back into neighborly relations.

  • TRayBTRayB Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @VegasFrank said:

    @TRayB said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

    Yeah, themz iz scurry Canadians with their syrup and ice hockey, eh?

    Don't forget some shiiittttyy beer too.

    I used to like Molson Golden, but haven't had it in 2 decades.

  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TRayB said:

    @Vision said:

    @VegasFrank said:

    @TRayB said:

    @VegasFrank said:
    I wonder why he will impose tariffs on our border friends, but not on our communist adversaries?

    Possibly because our border friends are not acting like friends.
    And yes, 10% on China.

    Yeah, themz iz scurry Canadians with their syrup and ice hockey, eh?

    Don't forget some shiiittttyy beer too.

    I used to like Molson Golden, but haven't had it in 2 decades.

    I've never been sure, did it change? Or, did I?

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    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5

    0645 this morning I was sitting with a circle of men from my church, we had our coffee and breakfast and a pretty good lesson about John Wesley's "Holy Club", a mens group at Oxford University founded by Wesley in the early 1700's that eventually became Methodism. It was a good lesson.

    Afterwards, the talk turned to politics and Musk's role in government. Several members pointed out that Musk is not any kind of elected official, and their belief that due to this fact that he should not be "writing laws", their terminology. Their thought is that only Congress should be writing the laws. I do not disagree.

    However, you knew it was coming, didn't you? However, isn't that exactly what's been happening forever? Bureaus and Department of this or that or the other have been writing the laws, essentially passing laws while bypassing Congress? Just wondering what, if anything, you guys think on the subject?

    Full disclosure: No, it's not a trolling trap. I just wonder. There are some really smart people on this forum and I'm curious to see what y'all think. Is this the same? Or something completely different? My opinion has long been that the departments and bureaucrats should not have the power that they do, that they should only be allowed to make suggestions to Congress, and that all Congresspersons should be required to read those suggestions before acting.

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  • OutdoorsSmoke_21191OutdoorsSmoke_21191 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My opinion, is some “departments”, have been, informally, given a longer leash. Meaning they are able to instill their own interpretation of congressional laws. YES @Vision you know what departments I’m referring to.

    A good cigar and whiskey solve most problems.

  • VisionVision Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5

    @OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
    My opinion, is some “departments”, have been, informally, given a longer leash. Meaning they are able to instill their own interpretation of congressional laws. YES @Vision you know what departments I’m referring to.

    🧐🤷🏻‍♂️

    Unless you're talking about the Department of Education abolishment.... Congress needs to approve this Order...

    I'm trying to stay away from this topic best I can. When things possibly effect me, I don't play well.

  • OutdoorsSmoke_21191OutdoorsSmoke_21191 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vision said:

    @OutdoorsSmoke_21191 said:
    My opinion, is some “departments”, have been, informally, given a longer leash. Meaning they are able to instill their own interpretation of congressional laws. YES @Vision you know what departments I’m referring to.

    🧐🤷🏻‍♂️

    Just trying to head you off before you trolled me 😘😜

    A good cigar and whiskey solve most problems.

  • First_WarriorFirst_Warrior Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We have met the enemy and they are us.

  • TRayBTRayB Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6

    This Administrative State, in the educated opinion of some very intelligent people, is the BIGGEST problem with American government today.

  • ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 10,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IndustMech said:
    I don't believe our elected congress people read the laws they vote on, much less write them.

    They're too busy voting themselves pay raises.

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

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