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  • urbinourbino Posts: 4,517
    I took it as kidding, maddy. Thanks for the lurv.
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Posts: 7,257 ✭✭✭
    urbino:
    I took it as kidding, maddy. Thanks for the lurv.
    >> I second that Maddy..we do discuss alot more than cigars here, but this forum reminds me of what it is like to sit around and B.S. with others while smoking cigars. You never know what you will end up talking about, but it is the cigars that brought us all together..
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    kaspera79:
    urbino:
    I took it as kidding, maddy. Thanks for the lurv.
    >> I second that Maddy..we do discuss alot more than cigars here, but this forum reminds me of what it is like to sit around and B.S. with others while smoking cigars. You never know what you will end up talking about, but it is the cigars that brought us all together..
    Well said ...
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    Bump. I thought some n00bs may want to see this.
  • alienmisprintalienmisprint Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭
    Thought you weren't supposed to use the "n" word?
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    Thats newbie, I said n00b. Notice the ingenious double zeros in the middle meant to hide the fact that I am, in fact, using a bad word. I thought it through ...

    Now get back to painting your boat.
  • betasynnbetasynn Posts: 1,249
    Good read, thanks for bumping this, I hadn't seen it yet. I sort of like being a newbie though; it's true, fits my experience level, and it justifies me smoking three or so cigars a day. Gotta find what I like and all...
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    i dont think that "newbie" is a bad word unless you make it out to be. I almost always call myself a perpetual newbie.
  • alienmisprintalienmisprint Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭
    My boat is already painted with the finest lead-based pigments money can buy, thank you very much.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    alienmisprint:
    My boat is already painted with the finest lead-based pigments money can buy, thank you very much.
    Lol. Navy Grey.
  • alienmisprintalienmisprint Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭
    Predator-blood green, actually.
  • madurofanmadurofan Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭
    haha.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭
    Rob1110:
    madurofan:
    Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets.

    Damn, what the hell am I going to do with all these things?!

    Thanks for bringing etiquette to light on the boards Maddy. I think most people here are great, stand up folks, but it's nice to think it's going to stay that way. Hopefully this helps.
    just for saying that you might have a misc bomb coming........... =p
  • cholmes8310cholmes8310 Posts: 1,585
    madurofan:
    Bump. I thought some n00bs may want to see this.


    Thanks. There's a lot of great info here. I might be a n00b to the thread, but have been smoking for years. Just now getting into it more seriously (finally my company is paying me enough to get by on!) and really enjoying a bunch of new sticks. Plus, ccom has WICKED deals that I just can't pass up. I really need help - I just can't say no to a good deal
  • bbc020bbc020 Posts: 1,422
    madurofan:
    Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.


    Definitions:
    Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
    Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
    Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
    PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
    There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.

    Some Guidelines:
    1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.

    2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.

    3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.

    4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.

    5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?

    6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.

    7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.

    8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.

    9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.

    10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.

    Q and A:

    Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?

    A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!

    Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?

    A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.

    Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?

    A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.

    Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?

    A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.

    Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?

    A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.

    Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?

    A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.

    Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?

    A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.

    Q: I have a rash on my ...

    A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.

    I'll add the other Guidelines you may have.
    thought I'd bump this for all newcomers to the forum...and thanks again to Maddy for starting this one a ways back.
  • TheShaunTheShaun Posts: 425
    bbc, thanks for bumping this. can't wait to get in on some of this in the coming weeks.
  • laker1963laker1963 Posts: 5,046
    TheShaun:
    bbc, thanks for bumping this. can't wait to get in on some of this in the coming weeks.
    Shaun, did you not send me your address? I thought that I had it but I don't.
    Could you send it to me? I try to keep an updated list of many of the BOTL here and I need to add you to the list.
    I keep the list for future trades, passes, bombs and to (discreetly) hand them out to other trusted BOTL here so they can send bombs without giving themselves away to the intended target. It no fun when they know when to duck :)
  • jsnakejsnake Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found this website the other day and just signed up. I have tried to read through everything to figure out how things work here so forgive me if this has been covered already. When you send a package to someone do you guys generally send it with a humidification pillow in the package? I find the possibilities of trading and participating here exciting and want to participate and try new cigars and I want to be sure to do it right when I do.
  • gmill880gmill880 Posts: 5,947
    jsnake:
    I found this website the other day and just signed up. I have tried to read through everything to figure out how things work here so forgive me if this has been covered already. When you send a package to someone do you guys generally send it with a humidification pillow in the package? I find the possibilities of trading and participating here exciting and want to participate and try new cigars and I want to be sure to do it right when I do.

    Some do , some don't . Its up to your descretion. The humi pillows have had some problems leaking on smokes for some people but that can be gotten around depending on how you send them. If your sending a package priority mail it usually gets anywhere in the country in 3 days max so most cigars are OK without for that amount of time. If I were sending something overseas say Iraq or A'stan I would probably humidify them but its really just your choice and just use your best judgement on how long they will take to arrive at their destination. Now, having said all that if you want to get a gauge on how long they take to travel around say to N.C. ......just package up a big bundle of your favorites and mail them to ME !!! I'll report back to ya how long they took to get here and what kind of shape they were in and how they tasted as I smoke them !!! Just kiddin ...
  • TatuajeVITatuajeVI Posts: 2,378
    Great advice, thanks for bumping this one back up.
  • jsnakejsnake Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gmill880:
    jsnake:
    I found this website the other day and just signed up. I have tried to read through everything to figure out how things work here so forgive me if this has been covered already. When you send a package to someone do you guys generally send it with a humidification pillow in the package? I find the possibilities of trading and participating here exciting and want to participate and try new cigars and I want to be sure to do it right when I do.

    Some do , some don't . Its up to your descretion. The humi pillows have had some problems leaking on smokes for some people but that can be gotten around depending on how you send them. If your sending a package priority mail it usually gets anywhere in the country in 3 days max so most cigars are OK without for that amount of time. If I were sending something overseas say Iraq or A'stan I would probably humidify them but its really just your choice and just use your best judgement on how long they will take to arrive at their destination. Now, having said all that if you want to get a gauge on how long they take to travel around say to N.C. ......just package up a big bundle of your favorites and mail them to ME !!! I'll report back to ya how long they took to get here and what kind of shape they were in and how they tasted as I smoke them !!! Just kiddin ...
    Thanks for the well thought out answer. You never know I may just send a package your way. Trying to settle in and read up before I jump in. I love cigars though so I am anxious to get involved and try some new ones and make new friends.
  • TatuajeVITatuajeVI Posts: 2,378
    jsnake - I've been ordering here for years, but just recently joined the forum. Funny enough I've been involved in 3 trades since I joined a few weeks ago, and now I'm "mystery mooching" in one of the game threads. You'll find this forum friendly, and most important of all - knowledgeable. A good combo!
  • Sandman1amSandman1am Posts: 2,567
    Tat there is no mystery you are and have always been a mooch! You never sent me the # I asked for so I made the order by myself....Also this is a great bump. Looking forward to some fun!
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Posts: 7,257 ✭✭✭
    ..Hey sandman, I don't think I understand. Did you try a PM if there was a problem ?
  • Hawk55Hawk55 Posts: 846
    ROFL...at least you were satisfied!!!
  • Sandman1amSandman1am Posts: 2,567
    kaspera79:
    ..Hey sandman, I don't think I understand. Did you try a PM if there was a problem ?
    Ya it was a private trade and Tat and I worked it all out. Guess the guy is waaaaay slow so I would still be waiting to spilt an order with him. Thanks
  • bearbbearb Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭
    bbc020:
    madurofan:
    Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.


    Definitions:
    Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
    Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
    Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
    PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
    There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.

    ///Just found this, thought it was very informative for me (& also entertaining) ...so I bumped it up! Some Guidelines:
    1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.

    2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.

    3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.

    4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.

    5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?

    6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.

    7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.

    8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.

    9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.

    10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.

    Q and A:

    Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?

    A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!

    Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?

    A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.

    Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?

    A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.

    Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?

    A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.

    Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?

    A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.

    Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?

    A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.

    Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?

    A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.

    Q: I have a rash on my ...

    A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.

    I'll add the other Guidelines you may have.
    thought I'd bump this for all newcomers to the forum...and thanks again to Maddy for starting this one a ways back.
    ////***hope this is still valid I thought it was interesting and informative so I bumped it
  • HaysHays Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭
    Damn talk about thread necromancy here..
    ¨The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea¨ - Isak Dinesen

    ¨Only two people walk around in this world beardless - boys and women - and I am neither one.¨
  • jsnakejsnake Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ZOMBIES!!
  • FourtotheflushFourtotheflush Posts: 2,555
    I think that its totally appropriate to have a thread like this bumped to the top every now and then. Im actually surprised it was dormant for over ayear.
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