That's a nice sentiment Glen, but I don't feel as though it should be a requirement...maybe it's just me, but if you were to make it mandatory that people reward to pass originator, it kind of cheapens the gesture.
Thanks for letting me know I may have not phrased this well Joe, cause I definitely wasnt going for the "YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR YOU'RE WRONG!" type of vibe or edict at all. Sorry if anyone else reading the post got that impression too. The following part of the post in questions was one of (if not THE) most important part of what I said...
The Sniper:
The collection itself is NOT a requirement, nor is any individual participant in the pass REQUIRED to kick in anything to this.
Additionally, I am certainly not the be-all, end-all of forum policy or etiquette and I apologize to everyone if I came off that way. I only wished to pass along what I'd seen in the passes Ive been involved in. I started one in a recent pass and got positive feedback on it, along with comments from several people that they'd never seen that done. I thought maybe it was something that used to happen around here that just sort of fell by the wayside over the years... stuff seems to be going that way IMHO, so I thought Id throw it out there.
Again, thanks for letting me know Joe, and sorry to all if I came off as a d-bag.
That's a nice sentiment Glen, but I don't feel as though it should be a requirement...maybe it's just me, but if you were to make it mandatory that people reward to pass originator, it kind of cheapens the gesture.
I dont think Glen was trying to say it was mandatory, and I agree with it not being mandatory. I think the focus should be on the pass itself and ensuring that the puts are equivalant if not better than the takes. Like Glen said if they "want" to throw in a bonus thats great but the priority should be on the pass itself, just my 2 cents.
RUDY CANT FAIL! :-) That was exactly what I was going for when I apparently stuck my foot in my mouth. Or keyboard. Or WTF ever. LOL
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
I'll add the other Guidelines you may have.
Fixed it!!
LOL No sequel ever beats the original! Thanks Mike!
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
I'll add the other Guidelines you may have.
Fixed it!!
LOL No sequel ever beats the original! Thanks Mike!
That's a nice sentiment Glen, but I don't feel as though it should be a requirement...maybe it's just me, but if you were to make it mandatory that people reward to pass originator, it kind of cheapens the gesture.
Thanks for letting me know I may have not phrased this well Joe, cause I definitely wasnt going for the "YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR YOU'RE WRONG!" type of vibe or edict at all. Sorry if anyone else reading the post got that impression too. The following part of the post in questions was one of (if not THE) most important part of what I said...
The Sniper:
The collection itself is NOT a requirement, nor is any individual participant in the pass REQUIRED to kick in anything to this.
Additionally, I am certainly not the be-all, end-all of forum policy or etiquette and I apologize to everyone if I came off that way. I only wished to pass along what I'd seen in the passes Ive been involved in. I started one in a recent pass and got positive feedback on it, along with comments from several people that they'd never seen that done. I thought maybe it was something that used to happen around here that just sort of fell by the wayside over the years... stuff seems to be going that way IMHO, so I thought Id throw it out there.
Again, thanks for letting me know Joe, and sorry to all if I came off as a d-bag.
Sniper OUT
Ok, must be me failing at reading comprehension...sorry Glen. I'm going to go back over that and read it again and hopefully not skip any words this time.
And you didn't come off as a d-bag, nothing of the sort. Glad we were able to clear up the confusion...I think I just read a little too fast the first time around and took a completely different meaning from your post than what you intended. Carry on!
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely withouyt the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE! ROTFLMAO..... IVEE HAD THIS POST IN MY FAVORITES FOREVER..........WHO GOT THIER PANTIES IN AN UPROAR! LOLO WISH I COULD SMOKE A CIGAR`
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Sorry, Mike, bump and grind only works if you have on a pair of ENFIDEL's shorty-shorts with a pink leather, leopard print banana hammock peeking out...
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
Alright in light of some recent events I felt this was needed.
Definitions:
Cigar Bombs - An unsolicited gift of cigars (or cigar stuff) sent via the mail from a Sibling of the Leaf.
Trade - Pretty self explanatory but it is where two BOTLs engage in a swap of cigars with details worked out beforehand.
Pass - When a group of cigars are packaged up and sent to another BOTL with the intention that that BOTL will take a predetermined number of cigars out and replace them with cigars of equal value.
PIF - Pay It Forward- A game where you agree to be someone's "mooch" and accept a package of cigars from them. After agreeing to be their mooch you then post asking who wants to be your mooch and you in turn send a package of cigars to this person.
There are other games going on in the forum including the MAW, and Fun and Games. If you have any questions about the rules feel free to PM a senior member who will give you the rules and inside scoop.
Some Guidelines:
1. It's the thought that counts. Do not be offended at the contents or value of the contents in a package you receive.
2. Games, PIFs or Bombing someone is not the way to get rid of your Swisher Sweets. Use the Golden Rule. Give unto others what you would hope they would give to you.
3. Don't beg to be bombed. It's annoying and look what it got Saddam.
4. Acknowledge when you receive a package. The sender loves to see that happy reaction. Be aware that some people may wish that their package's contents remain classified. Ask before posting any details if you think the person may want the contents kept under-wraps.
5. Been Bombed? Return fire? That is up to you. A Bomb is given freely without the expectation of reward. But do you really want to let them get away hitting you?
6. Send a note. Go ahead and write a little note to the target. Let them know what you are sending them and why you like it.
7. Do not covet your neighbors package. At some point someone else will get cigars from a person who has sent to you. Don't compare. It is silly to feel cheated or jaded because someone else received a package that you would have preferred.
8. Don't use the N-word (Newbie) to describe people who have just started smoking cigars. We were all there at one point. If you are a member of cigar.com you are a Sibling of the Leaf no matter what your experience level.
9. Send what you can. When participating in a game or when bombing someone send what you can. Be aware of rules, i.e. 3 cigar minimum for the PIF, but feel free to send more. However, don't feel guilty if you can only send 3. Everyone else knows the rules and shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum.
10. Pass Participation. If you agree to participate, follow through! Do not agree to participate in a pass and then when it gets to you bail out for any reason. If you don't like the cigars in the pass, buck up princess, thats how it goes sometimes, find the ones you hate the least or that you could give to someoneone you know will like them. If the cigars are too high end for you collection check with the other members of the pass to see how to go about this. It may have been that someone was trying to be generous and it will be ok if you do the best you can to match. However, pay attention to the value of a pass before you agree to be involved.
Q and A:
Q: I begged to be bombed. Does everyone hate me?
A: No, I don't think so. But to be sure bomb someone quick!
Q: I got a cigar in a package that I know I don't like. What do I do?
A: Keep that knowledge to yourself. You can try and smoke the cigar and see if you still don't like it or you can keep it handy in your humi to give to another Sibling of the Leaf who may like it.
Q: I've just started smoking cigars but I want to get in on the games. My Humi selection is kinda lame. What should I do?
A: First of all don't worry. If its a bomb you can return fire now, later or not at all. Remember that Golden Rule? If you like the cigars in your humi, play with those. Send a note saying why you like them. You might be surprised to learn that others may never have tried a cigar in your collection. You can also go to your local B&M and get a few sticks you know the target would like.
Q: I sent a package someone but I forgot to leave a note. What will I do?
A: Relax, you can always send the note when the target has posted their acknowledgment.
Q: I want to bomb XXXXX. But I don't know their address, how can I get it?
A: Ask others who seem to know the target, they may know and keep the secret. If worse comes to worse, just ask the target. It wont be a surprise, but they should still be happy.
Q: Hey! How come they got an Opus X and all I got was Henry Clay?
A: Calm down there buddy. Someone thought of you and sent you some cigars. Be gracious.
Q: Who made you the Etiquette person on Cigar.com?
A: No one. I just like to spell Etiquette.
Q: I have a rash on my ...
A: Whoa! No! Don't tell me, I'm not an MD. Go to a Doctor.
I'm glad you keep bumping this, Mike. One of the last trades I did wasn't so good. I never was thanked for my package nor did I ever receive any cigars back. More like a bomb than a trade. Hell, I wouldn't have even known he even got my package if I hadn't come out and asked. There's a lot to be said for etiquette.
I'm glad you keep bumping this, Mike. One of the last trades I did wasn't so good. I never was thanked for my package nor did I ever receive any cigars back. More like a bomb than a trade. Hell, I wouldn't have even known he even got my package if I hadn't come out and asked. There's a lot to be said for etiquette.
Know what you mean, Acknowledgement is one thing, If
i am out of town I at least let the brother know i got it! Then post pics when home! I have had one in the works for sometime and am still waiting, but optimistic!!!
I'm glad you keep bumping this, Mike. One of the last trades I did wasn't so good. I never was thanked for my package nor did I ever receive any cigars back. More like a bomb than a trade. Hell, I wouldn't have even known he even got my package if I hadn't come out and asked. There's a lot to be said for etiquette.
I understand if you don't want to cause a stink by naming names, but if people are agreeing to take part in a trade and not fulfilling their end, that is really something the community needs to know. we need to lookout for one another and make sure nobody else gets taken by said person.
I'm glad you keep bumping this, Mike. One of the last trades I did wasn't so good. I never was thanked for my package nor did I ever receive any cigars back. More like a bomb than a trade. Hell, I wouldn't have even known he even got my package if I hadn't come out and asked. There's a lot to be said for etiquette.
I understand if you don't want to cause a stink by naming names, but if people are agreeing to take part in a trade and not fulfilling their end, that is really something the community needs to know. we need to lookout for one another and make sure nobody else gets taken by said person.
Agreed...looking at the scumbag list, I worry that noobs here might be lurking from those lists. It's our job to police and watch each others back, I say after a few attempts....blast them. I have only traded with active members I have seen here often. My 2 cents....? F-Them
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Additionally, I am certainly not the be-all, end-all of forum policy or etiquette and I apologize to everyone if I came off that way. I only wished to pass along what I'd seen in the passes Ive been involved in. I started one in a recent pass and got positive feedback on it, along with comments from several people that they'd never seen that done. I thought maybe it was something that used to happen around here that just sort of fell by the wayside over the years... stuff seems to be going that way IMHO, so I thought Id throw it out there.
Again, thanks for letting me know Joe, and sorry to all if I came off as a d-bag.
Sniper OUT
And you didn't come off as a d-bag, nothing of the sort. Glad we were able to clear up the confusion...I think I just read a little too fast the first time around and took a completely different meaning from your post than what you intended. Carry on!