@Don66 along with what everyone else said...you may want to experiment with different cuts or even a punch. Over trimming the cap can open a cigar up too much and let the smoke rush through quickly making it seem harsh.
That’s interesting. I used a punch because it’s pressed. I thought it was the other way around, that a punch concentrates the smoke whereas a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. I don’t own a V cutter so I can’t say in that regard.
@Don66 said:
That’s interesting. I used a punch because it’s pressed. I thought it was the other way around, that a punch concentrates the smoke whereas a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. I don’t own a V cutter so I can’t say in that regard.
A Punch will concentrate tar buildup towards the end of the smoke. Not sure way it would be harsh to start.
@Don66 said:
That’s interesting. I used a punch because it’s pressed. I thought it was the other way around, that a punch concentrates the smoke whereas a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. I don’t own a V cutter so I can’t say in that regard.
Yes a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. But that open easier draw can make some tobaccos burn hotter.
I dont smoke directly from my winedors. I had bad luck with performance when I did. I found keeping about 50 sticks in my desktop humidor and smoking from there worked best. I store in winedors and smoke out of the desktop.
"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form." -- Winston Churchill "LET'S GO FRANCIS" Peter
@Don66 Welcome to the forum. I have some ideas for your initial harshness. Maybe you are scorching your tobacco when you light it. Scorched tobacco will taste bad for a while and the taste would eventually get better and this sounds like what may be happening with you. Torch lighters make it too easy to scorch your tobacco, but they are a necessity when there's any breeze at all. Try lowering your flame and pulling back from your cigar so that the visible flame never touches the foot of your cigar. Darken the foot and continue slowly until you get some of the tobacco glowing. Rotate your stick as you do this for even coverage. Then when you think it's ready, draw on the cigar with the jet flame still well away from the foot. And only allow it to flame up once, maybe twice, but no more than that. Then see if it's well lit at that point and touch it up a little if needed but always go easy with the flame throughout the process and you might like the results better. Good luck. Let me know if any of these techniques helps your situation.
Welcome @Don66 and @Rdp77 . I'm relatively new to the Forum myself and find the guys on here quite informative and humorous. But you gotta keep up on the threads or you might not catch it easily. I personally just try to keep my head down! Haha
Hello. I'm excited to learn more about cigars and meet new people on this forum. My buddy Wayne in Reno introduced me to the forum and I can't wait to discuss cigars. Thanks!
@CigarKev2021 I’m pretty new to the forum myself...they’re a pretty good group. Just don’t be too thin skinned and keep your ears open. There’s a lot of good info to be found here.
@CigarKev2021 said:
Hello. I'm excited to learn more about cigars and meet new people on this forum. My buddy Wayne in Reno introduced me to the forum and I can't wait to discuss cigars. Thanks!
Hello @CigarKev2021 , welcome. Two threads that are must-reads are: (almost) all inclusive guide to cigar etiquette, found in General Discussion, and Developing your Palate in Cigar 101. BTW, note that it is Palate, NOT Pallet. Two different things which seem to be often confused by the uninitiated. If Wayne sent you then you have a good guide to the shenanigans, I mean, the way things work here. Have fun. Glad to have you.
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Oh, and check out the links under Kuzi's post. There's more cigar knowledge there than most people on the planet have any notion of. I hope they still work, he doesn't come around as often as he used to.
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Hello. I’m new here. Been smoking cigars about five years. Also pipes. Have made a few pipes, and I’m currently growing a small batch of golden Virginia. Came across the thread of folks rolling their own cigars and was really impressed. I love tobacco and its history. Nice to meet y’all.
@Rdp77 said:
Welcome @Old_Toby there is a lot of good information to be found around here....and some of these guys actually have a little sense 😂
Welcome. A short leap of faith makes me think that you may partake of the pipe tobacco varietals as well. Check out the pipe section if that is the case.
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"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Hi from a NorCal foothills gold country Cigar fan. First visit, first post.
I am 55, self employed and live with my wife on a small ranch in a rural area of NorCal. We have 4 adult children and I am into Lever Action Rifle Silhouette shooting and tube radio & amplifier restoration.
I occasionally smoked cigars over the past 20 years but not too often, and didn't really enjoy it that much. I had a friend that smoked cigarillos from CAO and I would smoke with him once in a while and enjoyed it. Then tried an ACID Blondie and KUBA KUBA; those seemed pretty good at the time.
I live in a very small town and recently a real cigar store/lounge opened here and I was happy to see they had a few infused cigars and started smoking there once a week. I gradually started asking the owner for a few suggestions on non-infused cigars and now I am finding I am really enjoying most anything from Nicaragua and Connecticut Broadleaf seems to be one of my favorite wrappers (correct me if I am stating this poorly).
This week I received an order from Cigar.com of the following:
La Aroma De Cuba Mi Amor Reserva
Nica Rustica by Drew Estate
Liga Privada Unico Serie
Acid 20 by Drew Estate
Acid Seven Wonders Sampler
I know I should wait but I could not resist trying one of the Le Aroma De Cuba and I honestly think it was one of my favorites. Today I am on the back patio smoking a Kuba Kuba Maduro and I am afraid my tastes are changing because it seems WAY TOO SWEET which is odd to realize now as I have a large humidor full of the variety of ACID infused. Hopefully there are others here that I can work a trade with eventually.
That's pretty much all I can thin of for an introduction. I have been reading quite a bit here and already learned a few good tips so I do appreciate that you all have put your time and effort into making this place what it is, and I am thankful to have found it.
Welcome @Brokegunner , adding to the list of Californians in here. Keep trying new stuff and post in here when you can. This forum is an excellent hub of information
Comments
@Don66 along with what everyone else said...you may want to experiment with different cuts or even a punch. Over trimming the cap can open a cigar up too much and let the smoke rush through quickly making it seem harsh.
That’s interesting. I used a punch because it’s pressed. I thought it was the other way around, that a punch concentrates the smoke whereas a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. I don’t own a V cutter so I can’t say in that regard.
A Punch will concentrate tar buildup towards the end of the smoke. Not sure way it would be harsh to start.
Yes a cut makes for a more open, easier draw. But that open easier draw can make some tobaccos burn hotter.
I usually encounter this problem when the cigars haven’t sat long enough in the humidor @Don66
There’s my contribution 🤷🏻♂️
I dont smoke directly from my winedors. I had bad luck with performance when I did. I found keeping about 50 sticks in my desktop humidor and smoking from there worked best. I store in winedors and smoke out of the desktop.
-- Winston Churchill
"LET'S GO FRANCIS" Peter
@Don66 Welcome to the forum. I have some ideas for your initial harshness. Maybe you are scorching your tobacco when you light it. Scorched tobacco will taste bad for a while and the taste would eventually get better and this sounds like what may be happening with you. Torch lighters make it too easy to scorch your tobacco, but they are a necessity when there's any breeze at all. Try lowering your flame and pulling back from your cigar so that the visible flame never touches the foot of your cigar. Darken the foot and continue slowly until you get some of the tobacco glowing. Rotate your stick as you do this for even coverage. Then when you think it's ready, draw on the cigar with the jet flame still well away from the foot. And only allow it to flame up once, maybe twice, but no more than that. Then see if it's well lit at that point and touch it up a little if needed but always go easy with the flame throughout the process and you might like the results better. Good luck. Let me know if any of these techniques helps your situation.
Welcome @Don66 and @Rdp77 . I'm relatively new to the Forum myself and find the guys on here quite informative and humorous. But you gotta keep up on the threads or you might not catch it easily. I personally just try to keep my head down! Haha
That alone should draw friendly-fiire.
Things are about to get interesting...
^ nice target you placed on your own back 🎯
I saw him talking to @Guitarded on the vherf this week
Hello. I'm excited to learn more about cigars and meet new people on this forum. My buddy Wayne in Reno introduced me to the forum and I can't wait to discuss cigars. Thanks!
Welcome @CigarKev2021 stick around! Lots of great folks on here and tons of info.
@CigarKev2021 I’m pretty new to the forum myself...they’re a pretty good group. Just don’t be too thin skinned and keep your ears open. There’s a lot of good info to be found here.
Hello @CigarKev2021 , welcome. Two threads that are must-reads are: (almost) all inclusive guide to cigar etiquette, found in General Discussion, and Developing your Palate in Cigar 101. BTW, note that it is Palate, NOT Pallet. Two different things which seem to be often confused by the uninitiated. If Wayne sent you then you have a good guide to the shenanigans, I mean, the way things work here. Have fun. Glad to have you.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Oh, and check out the links under Kuzi's post. There's more cigar knowledge there than most people on the planet have any notion of. I hope they still work, he doesn't come around as often as he used to.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Welcome @CigarKev2021
Welcome @CigarKev2021 .
Things are about to get interesting...
Welcome to the forum.
Don't let the wife know what you spend on guns, ammo or cigars.
Welcome all
Welcome all.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
Welcome all!!
Hello. I’m new here. Been smoking cigars about five years. Also pipes. Have made a few pipes, and I’m currently growing a small batch of golden Virginia. Came across the thread of folks rolling their own cigars and was really impressed. I love tobacco and its history. Nice to meet y’all.
Hi @Old_Toby, welcome. Let me know if you have any questions.
Welcome @Old_Toby there is a lot of good information to be found around here....and some of these guys actually have a little sense 😂
Welcome @Old_Toby
Welcome aboard.
Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.
Welcome. A short leap of faith makes me think that you may partake of the pipe tobacco varietals as well. Check out the pipe section if that is the case.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Hi from a NorCal foothills gold country Cigar fan. First visit, first post.
I am 55, self employed and live with my wife on a small ranch in a rural area of NorCal. We have 4 adult children and I am into Lever Action Rifle Silhouette shooting and tube radio & amplifier restoration.
I occasionally smoked cigars over the past 20 years but not too often, and didn't really enjoy it that much. I had a friend that smoked cigarillos from CAO and I would smoke with him once in a while and enjoyed it. Then tried an ACID Blondie and KUBA KUBA; those seemed pretty good at the time.
I live in a very small town and recently a real cigar store/lounge opened here and I was happy to see they had a few infused cigars and started smoking there once a week. I gradually started asking the owner for a few suggestions on non-infused cigars and now I am finding I am really enjoying most anything from Nicaragua and Connecticut Broadleaf seems to be one of my favorite wrappers (correct me if I am stating this poorly).
This week I received an order from Cigar.com of the following:
La Aroma De Cuba Mi Amor Reserva
Nica Rustica by Drew Estate
Liga Privada Unico Serie
Acid 20 by Drew Estate
Acid Seven Wonders Sampler
I know I should wait but I could not resist trying one of the Le Aroma De Cuba and I honestly think it was one of my favorites. Today I am on the back patio smoking a Kuba Kuba Maduro and I am afraid my tastes are changing because it seems WAY TOO SWEET which is odd to realize now as I have a large humidor full of the variety of ACID infused. Hopefully there are others here that I can work a trade with eventually.
That's pretty much all I can thin of for an introduction. I have been reading quite a bit here and already learned a few good tips so I do appreciate that you all have put your time and effort into making this place what it is, and I am thankful to have found it.
Thanks
Brokegunner
"Not all heroes eat crepes"
Welcome @Brokegunner
Get those acids in a separate humidor if they aren’t already otherwise they will all be infused.
Welcome @Brokegunner , adding to the list of Californians in here. Keep trying new stuff and post in here when you can. This forum is an excellent hub of information