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I was merely inquiring ๐ง
Maybe it just needed a boost(er)โฆIf you want to bomb me send it to Tony @0patience
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Oh I see what you did there
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Time to make everyone mad again, because both sides are going to hate half of this sentence. The Omicron variant is VERY infective, and the vaccine doesn't appear to be working against it. An example:
In Norway, there was a Christmas party of 120 people. Every single person who attended was vaccinated. Someone got back from South Africa, went to the party, and infected between 60-100 of the 120 people. The person who did the infecting didn't come within 6 feet of every guest, they were just in the same restaurant sized room for an hour.
In South Africa, on 11/12, there were 395 new COVID infections. On 12/3, exactly 3 weeks later, there were 16,055. Dark days ahead. We can all argue about the best way to deal with COVID, but we can't argue with an exponent.
Side note, if I were you, I'd make a Costco/Sam's Club run this week before the idiots buy out the grocery stores and toilet paper like they did last time.
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@CalvinAndHobo said:
Side note, if I were you, I'd make a Costco/Sam's Club run this week before the idiots buy out the grocery stores and toilet paper like they did last time.
What's up with that anyway? "The world may come to an end, but I'm still wiping mine!" People are crazy. I guess it helps that I remember cloth diapers, you WASH them, and use them again. A washcloth will respond to the same treatment.
As far as the new variant goes, yeah? Well, that's what viruses do. We've reached the point where the more dangerous aspect is what world governments do, over reaching power and control. Take reasonable measures to avoid getting sick, what will be will be.
WARNING:ย The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme.ย Proceed at your own risk. ย
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. ย If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- ย Mark Twain4 -
@Amos_Umwhat said:
@CalvinAndHobo said:
Side note, if I were you, I'd make a Costco/Sam's Club run this week before the idiots buy out the grocery stores and toilet paper like they did last time.
What's up with that anyway? "The world may come to an end, but I'm still wiping mine!" People are crazy. I guess it helps that I remember cloth diapers, you WASH them, and use them again. A washcloth will respond to the same treatment.
As far as the new variant goes, yeah? Well, that's what viruses do. We've reached the point where the more dangerous aspect is what world governments do, over reaching power and control. Take reasonable measures to avoid getting sick, what will be will be.
Yeah Iโve always been on the itโs-your-own-choice side of the COVID debate like you have. I think itโs still worth knowing the risks though, so I thought Iโd mention it. The 3.5 day doubling rate says weโre going to have full hospitals in about 3-4 months, unless this mutation is less severe than Delta, which it might be. If you donโt plan to change your lifestyle, itโs still worth knowing so you can prepare. Just common sense stuff like the toilet paper, or moving investments out of retail businesses temporarily. Things like that. Plus, I couldnโt resist trying to make everyone mad at me with 1 sentence
. Iโm still going to try and avoid talking about what I think the government should or shouldnโt do, just for my own piece of mind, since whichever option I think is the worst is the one Iโm sure theyโll pick.2 -
@CalvinAndHobo said:
...since whichever option I think is the worst is the one Iโm sure theyโll pick.
well, yeah, divide and conquer, keeps everyone riled up. There is such a thing as common ground, social contract, etc. but few choose it.
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From what I've read isn't this varient equivalent to a cold with mild symptoms
"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
-- Winston Churchill
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@Usaf06 said:
From what I've read isn't this varient equivalent to a cold with mild symptomsI've been having a hard time finding actual numbers about it's severity, since I can't find hospitalization stats for South Africa. it seems like every article has been using vague words like "appears to..." "seems to be..." "looks as if...". But yes, everything I've seen is saying the symptoms are less severe in this version.
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At the moment it is the delta putting people in the hospital.
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I am not all that concerned about any of it. I took it more seriously in the beginning, I wore a mask, I stayed away from people, and when my kids tested positive we quarantined according to the CDC guidelines. However, I have since realized how politicized it all is and how questionable the numbers have been. Therefore, I will continue to exercise my common sense by washing my hands, eating right, and staying away from others if I feel sick, but I am not going to get all riled up just because this thing keeps getting prolonged.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
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"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
-- Winston Churchill
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/26/politics/travel-restrictions-south-africa/index.html
Had Trump ordered this same ban, what would CNN be saying?
โIt has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.โ โThomas Jefferson (1808)
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nyt:
JAN. 31The Trump administration restricted travel from China
The Trump administration suspended entry into the United States by any foreign nationals who had traveled to China in the past 14 days, excluding the immediate family members of American citizens or permanent residents. By this date, 213 people had died and nearly 9,800 had been infected worldwide.0 -
We are lucky that the posts we read on social media aren't biased and are well fact checked.
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Which is not to say that the mainstream media doesn't put a spin on their reporting.
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@silvermouse said:
We are lucky that the posts we read on social media aren't biased and are well fact checked."Other people might have a bias, but I certainly don't". We all do. But if we discern our own, we think it's the right and truthful slant, the honest one. LOL
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opinion is fact-checked-immune, even if a few cherry-picked facts are thrown in. Watching the evening fox or msnbc bear this out. Problem is most people who gravitate to Tucker or Rachel feel it is unbiased because it confirms their opinion. So, yeah, Hobbes is right about the echo chamber death of journalism. Always been that way.
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My father used to tell me โthere are three sides to every truth. their version, the other personโs version, and what actually happened.โ Iโm glad he taught me that when I was younger. It has helped me greatly along the path of life.
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give". ย Winston Churchill.
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Your father was spot on with that, @Patrickbrick.
Just to clarify any potential misunderstandings anyone may have had from my previous comment, I believe all media sources are biased. However, some admit their bias and others don't. The ones that don't admit their bias are the ones we really need to watch out for. I find those to be the mainstream sources, including Fox.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
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@Hobbes86 said:
Your father was spot on with that, @Patrickbrick.Just to clarify any potential misunderstandings anyone may have had from my previous comment, I believe all media sources are biased. However, some admit their bias and others don't. The ones that don't admit their bias are the ones we really need to watch out for. I find those to be the mainstream sources, including Fox.
You're going to try and tell me fox doesn't clearly tell us they are biased... they are biased and proud of it
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1 quick thing I'd like to add to this thread even though I've done my best to stay out...
Just something I've personally noticed at my work specifically.
I got my vaccine because Lindsay told me to and she's the boss and I don't much care either way.
My mentor the guy who has taught me everything I know was hard core fลซck that covid vaccine. His brother got covid then pneumonia almost died. Boom my mentor quietly got his vaccine just told me the other day did it because even if it doesn't prevent him from getting it he hopes it will help keep him out of the hospital after seeing what happened to his brother.
My boss basically believes covid is a conspiracy to some level. Now his daughter has been out of the office for going on 4 weeks with covid/double pneumonia his wife has been out a week and now the discussion is maybe the vaccine wouldn't hurt... it's just interesting to see first hand how when shรฏt hits home ppl can change their stance on something. I'm not saying they now believe its a cure all but all of a sudden they feel "what could it hurt".
I get that there just hasn't been enough time to tell long term what it will do to us but it's amazing how easily 1 can change their opinion when it becomes real/personal.2 -
@Jrflickster said:
You're going to try and tell me fox doesn't clearly tell us they are biased... they are biased and proud of itIf they freely admit it, then good on them. I simply haven't heard anyone on there plainly state they are bias, but I also don't watch Fox very often.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
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@Jrflickster said:
1 quick thing I'd like to add to this thread even though I've done my best to stay out...
Just something I've personally noticed at my work specifically.
I got my vaccine because Lindsay told me to and she's the boss and I don't much care either way.
My mentor the guy who has taught me everything I know was hard core fลซck that covid vaccine. His brother got covid then pneumonia almost died. Boom my mentor quietly got his vaccine just told me the other day did it because even if it doesn't prevent him from getting it he hopes it will help keep him out of the hospital after seeing what happened to his brother.
My boss basically believes covid is a conspiracy to some level. Now his daughter has been out of the office for going on 4 weeks with covid/double pneumonia his wife has been out a week and now the discussion is maybe the vaccine wouldn't hurt... it's just interesting to see first hand how when shรฏt hits home ppl can change their stance on something. I'm not saying they now believe its a cure all but all of a sudden they feel "what could it hurt".
I get that there just hasn't been enough time to tell long term what it will do to us but it's amazing how easily 1 can change their opinion when it becomes real/personal.We all tend to take things more seriously when they happen to those we love.
My three oldest kids, as well as my wife, all tested positive for Covid-19 at one point. None of them experienced anything worse than a fever a little nausea for a few days. It is hard to tell who will be greatly affected by it and who won't.
"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another." - Proverbs 27:17
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98% survivable. Do you feel as though you'll be in the 98% or the 2%?
Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.
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speaking of pandemics:
"Big organizations, the Fortune 500 types, likely have the resources to plug their Log4Shell holes in the coming weeks and months. But even theyโll have to wait for third-party vendors to provide fixes. And whole constellations of companies and organizations lack the capacity or personnel even to know how exposed they are, much less patch those points of exposure. To say nothing of the vast swaths of the internet that no oneโs looking after at all. The next wave of Log4Shell is coming. And then the next, and the next, and the next, and the next.
โItโs going to be around,โ says Gallagher, โas long as the internet.""
https://www.wired.com/story/log4j-log4shell-vulnerability-ransomware-second-wave/
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It's all about power and control, Europe (Germany, Austria) are beginning to lock down the unvaccinated, we usually lag behind Europe several weeks so get ready.
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