you can't make this stuff up

jlmarta

Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

webmost

@jlmarta said:
Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

The vid is for visual; the link above it is to an article in English.
Fascinating engine.
Can you imagine the machining that goes into making one? Holy Cow!

0patience

@webmost said:
Herbert Huttlin's Kugelmotor

https://youtu.be/eRhxctg5mns

Spherical or swing piston type motor.
This technology has been around for quite some time, in one variation or another.
It has been proven in pneumatic motors, but not yet proven in a combustion engine.
As with most things, the theory is sound, but yet unproven.

Since 2000, there has been many pushes toward getting this style of engine proven in an MYT (massive yet tiny) engine for energy uses.
Theory is that the engine can produce 40 times the power to weight ratio.
And yet again, still not proven.

If it can ever be proven, the size of this engine to produce the same power as a conventional gas engine, will be roughly 1/2 the size of a conventional engine.
Which opens up a lot of possibilities.
A diesel version will be the most likely breakthru and probably be the one that succeeds first.

webmost

@0patience said:

@webmost said:
Herbert Huttlin's Kugelmotor

https://youtu.be/eRhxctg5mns

This technology has been around for quite some time, in one variation or another.

...

Since 2000, there has been many pushes toward getting this style of engine proven in an MYT (massive yet tiny) engine for energy uses.

I imagine you follow these things more than I do.
So what's your most fascinating new engine design?

0patience

Right now, opposed piston engines are something I've been watching in the last decade. Ford is really trying to push getting the Achates opposed piston engine up and running in the next 10 years. Supposedly, it will be 30% more efficient than conventional gas engines.
Microsoft and Vinod Khosla are backing the EcoMotors "opoc" opposed piston engine. It is a different design than the Achates.

Toyota's FPEG W engine may see market in the next 10 years, but I don't see it as efficient as the opposed piston engines.

Then there are tons of radial and turbine designs being tested.
One that if it ever comes to light, that I think will be a total game changer is the Wave Disk Generator engine.

But the one that really peaks my interest is the Aquarius Engines free piston linear engine.
If this engine ever gets to production, it will be a game changer.

Right now is an amazing time for the industry. Technology and computers have allowed designs to be tested virtually before wasting millions of dollars testing and allowed unconventional designs to actually show that they may actually work.

Editted:
The thing about the new engine designs is that some of them are going against the grain of thought of conventional engineering. I love that.
Designs that the engineers first look at and say can never work, yet computer models show a 30% increase in power and efficiency, with less parts and weight.
That, gets me excited.

jlmarta

@webmost said:

@jlmarta said:
Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

The vid is for visual; the link above it is to an article in English.
Fascinating engine.
Can you imagine the machining that goes into making one? Holy Cow!

I just went back and looked - there isn’t any link above it, at least not on my iPhone. Anyway, it’s interesting.... 🤓

Amos_Umwhat

@0patience , when you say opposed piston, is that like my BMW boxer engine? Or something completely different?

I have to say that the BMW engine is indeed much more efficient than oh, say, any Harley engine ever made. Smoother, more horsepower, roughly equivalent torque albeit at higher RPM, and better fuel mileage.

0patience

@Amos_Umwhat said:
@0patience , when you say opposed piston, is that like my BMW boxer engine? Or something completely different?

I have to say that the BMW engine is indeed much more efficient than oh, say, any Harley engine ever made. Smoother, more horsepower, roughly equivalent torque albeit at higher RPM, and better fuel mileage.

Any time you can put pistons in a linear motion, the stress on the machine is far less.
Inlines, horizontals, etc. hold up far better than V engines, because of the competing forces on the V engines.
Power-wise, no question on a V engine, you can pack more pistons in the same space. But there is a reason heavy equipment and trucks tend to run inline engines.
Harleys shake, because of the 2 pistons competing for harmonics.
Which is why V-8s had harmonic balancers. Otherwise, the engine would shake itself to death.

Opposing piston engines are smoother, more efficient and less wear and tear.

Similar to a boxter engine.
But the Achates uses 2 pistons, one bore and they compress together against each other. Similar to what you would see in a 2 stroke.

The EcoMotors OPOC is more similar to a boxter engine, but not.
If that makes sense. Opposing pistons.

Then there is the Aquarius free piston, which is more a generator for electrics, than a power motor. Which will propel it forward, in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/26PjRQmIoeE

Trykflyr_1

There have been opposed piston engines in aviation for 3/4 of a century. Virtually every piston powered general aviation aircraft has one. The big players are Lycoming and Continental, both now owned by Textron, but there are a few other manufacturers. Allison made a V-12 that powered a few WW2 fighters, as did Roll-Royce, most notably the Merlin in the venerable P-51.

0patience

@Trykflyr_1 said:
There have been opposed piston engines in aviation for 3/4 of a century. Virtually every piston powered general aviation aircraft has one. The big players are Lycoming and Continental, both now owned by Textron, but there are a few other manufacturers. Allison made a V-12 that powered a few WW2 fighters, as did Roll-Royce, most notably the Merlin in the venerable P-51.

The Rolls Merlin was a V-12.
That isn't considered an oppossd piston.

Aircraft have been using opposed piston for years, yes.
No one was saying they weren't.
But the Achates is one of the first opposed piston design of its kind.

For that matter opposed piston isn't anything new in the automotive. Subaru, Porsche, BMW and several others have built some.
What is new, is the technology that is making them smaller, more efficient and more powerful.

Trykflyr_1

I'll agree with all that. And I'm all for lighter, better piston pushers. Now if someone can just convince the old guys at the Friends Against Aviation. We're still using magnetos fir cryin out loud

0patience

@Trykflyr_1 said:
I'll agree with all that. And I'm all for lighter, better piston pushers. Now if someone can just convince the old guys at the Friends Against Aviation. We're still using magnetos fir cryin out loud

A friend of mine was showing me one of his planes.
And I seen the magnetos and I did a double take.
Not sure why. Maybe altitude affects them? Dunno.
Now I'm gonna have to research that, cause it's gonna bug me until I do. LOL!

One of my uncles had a plane with an old radial engine.
Now that was an impressive thing. It was giant.

CharlieHeis

Who wants to tell him that's not how this holiday works

silvermouse

It's me-times, it's how everything works these days ^

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-to-find-new-gop-convention-site-if-north-carolina-governor-wont-allow-full-attendance

silvermouse

Fortunately, you can use 5GBioShield without disabling your Wi-Fi. The USB key doesn't block Wi-Fi signals, the company says. Instead, the product "transmutes" the signals and "harmonizes all harmful frequencies into life affirming frequencies."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/05/5g-conspiracy-theorists-sell-350-usb-stick-to-fight-electric-fog/

Wylaff

@jlmarta said:

@webmost said:

@jlmarta said:
Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

The vid is for visual; the link above it is to an article in English.
Fascinating engine.
Can you imagine the machining that goes into making one? Holy Cow!

I just went back and looked - there isn’t any link above it, at least not on my iPhone. Anyway, it’s interesting.... 🤓

The title hotlinks to the article.

Yakster

MMM, hot links

jlmarta

@Wylaff said:

@jlmarta said:

@webmost said:

@jlmarta said:
Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

The vid is for visual; the link above it is to an article in English.
Fascinating engine.
Can you imagine the machining that goes into making one? Holy Cow!

I just went back and looked - there isn’t any link above it, at least not on my iPhone. Anyway, it’s interesting.... 🤓

The title hotlinks to the article.

Hmmm. Who’da thunk it?? What’ll they think of next?? 🙄

0patience

@jlmarta said:

@Wylaff said:

@jlmarta said:

@webmost said:

@jlmarta said:
Hmmmm. How very interesting. Uh, what’d he say.....?? 🙄🙄

The vid is for visual; the link above it is to an article in English.
Fascinating engine.
Can you imagine the machining that goes into making one? Holy Cow!

I just went back and looked - there isn’t any link above it, at least not on my iPhone. Anyway, it’s interesting.... 🤓

The title hotlinks to the article.

Hmmm. Who’da thunk it?? What’ll they think of next?? 🙄

Don't feel bad, I had no clue either.

silvermouse

This is just brilliant, lol. Some professor drew a salary to administer this study:

Taking Time to Commune with Nature Increases Feelings of Connection to It, Study Shows

https://www.newswise.com/articles/taking-time-to-commune-with-nature-increases-feelings-of-connection-to-it-study-shows?sc=sphn

0patience

@silvermouse said:
This is just brilliant, lol. Some professor drew a salary to administer this study:

Taking Time to Commune with Nature Increases Feelings of Connection to It, Study Shows

https://www.newswise.com/articles/taking-time-to-commune-with-nature-increases-feelings-of-connection-to-it-study-shows?sc=sphn

Yep, that's genius.
I need to have someone fund a grant like that for me, when I retire.
I can bull$h!t as well as the next guy.

webmost

Taking time to commune with my cigar increases my connection to it.

Yakster

Has anyone had their cigar ash read by a brujeria?

https://www.brujonegrobrujeria.com/page/page/3099521.htm

https://youtu.be/oFmNgiEgPoQ

webmost

https://youtu.be/Nt_Oe3IvWvE

0patience

Instead of Americans, can we call them "Dumba$$"?

silvermouse

saint donald

miller65rod

@silvermouse said:
saint donald

Disgrace

Patrickbrick

And yet out of 350 million Americans he and Hillary were the best, now it's him or Biden. These are not choices.

webmost

@Patrickbrick said:
And yet out of 350 million Americans he and Hillary were the best, now it's him or Biden. These are not choices.

Eggs Ackley

Tulsi

Trykflyr_1

Vote for me!