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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can't wait for 2020.  Would love to see him reelected.  The snowflakes will have a bigger meltdown than in 2016.  He'll be promoted from "collaborator" to "Antichrist" in 24 hours.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    ShawnOL said:
    Can't wait for 2020.  Would love to see him reelected.  The snowflakes will have a bigger meltdown than in 2016.  He'll be promoted from "collaborator" to "Antichrist" in 24 hours.

    I absolutely agree. Your surprised, right?

    But. And it is a huge but.
    If people like comey, schitf, clinton, biden and so many others are not prosecuted for their lies, conspiracies and criminal acts we will be subject to the same msm DNC water carrying  BS "reporting". If our "schools" don't get back to the education of "students" instead of what has become all too pervasive indoctrination we will still be stuck in the swamp forever.
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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So true.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    MartelMartel Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭
    I have to say, when your reason for wanting someone to get elected is so "snowflakes will have a bigger meltdown" rather than issues of policy, ethics, and character, you're probably...something.  Voting for the wrong reasons at least. 
    Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

    I like Oliva and Quesada (including Regius) a lot.  I will smoke anything, though.
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    webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    Martel said:
    I have to say, when your reason for wanting someone to get elected is so "snowflakes will have a bigger meltdown" rather than issues of policy, ethics, and character, you're probably...something.  Voting for the wrong reasons at least. 

    When D.C. is a circus run amuk, hell bent on **** up the country, might as well enjoy the show.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    ShawnOL said:
    Martel said:
    I have to say, when your reason for wanting someone to get elected is so "snowflakes will have a bigger meltdown" rather than issues of policy, ethics, and character, you're probably...something.  Voting for the wrong reasons at least. 

    When D.C. is a circus run amuk, hell bent on **** up the country, might as well enjoy the show.

    Why not look forward to a bunch of woke SJWs snowflakes and weenies lose it in so many glorious ways? These xxxxx and other assorted fools crying and acting ridiculous is apart from the win, a free entertainment benefit. Which will keep us smiling through the democrats continued impeachment of the month club. Isn't TDS a wonderful thing.......so ridiculously entertaining.
    And all because of the corrupt arrogance of the loser who is threatening to run again.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    I mean let's face it.
    The democrats, liberals, snowflakes, weenies, masked involuntary celibate masked green haired losers have accomplished nothing at all, if you don't count blocked traffic and a total inability to answer any legitimate question. The DNC is a total failure and fail at every turn to harm Trump. 
    But the election is not a sure thing, because the democrats will stoop to anything to satisfy their TDS.
    Meanwhile they get shut down in open meetings by everyone they attack. They can't justify anything they do or say, but they still do and say it.
    You don't think chasing shitf out of a "CLOSED" hearing wasn't funny?
    You don't think "I saw it with my own eyes" slawell(?) is anything but a standup comic?
    You don't think waters, pelosi, (where is the camera, puppet master) chuckie glasses  are doing anything for the good of the country instead of making absurd and ludicrous statements?
    Trump's accomplishments.....https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
    I don't agree with everything Trump does or says and I wish he would stop his tweets (even though they tie up the MSM), but there is no one associated with the DNC that has accomplished anything at all. Well, if you don't count a lot of tax payer money spent and a lot of useless pointless protests. The protests are for the most part another source of some really entertaining laughs. I love the cows in green hair.
    Make the US a better place and run the wall up the calalafornia border.

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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the way up to Canada.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, hey, wait a minute!  I know California is considered a ‘liberal’ state but I think you guys are forgetting that there’s still a helluva bunch of us conservatives who still live here. Cut us a little slack, okay?

    Sure, a lot of us would like to leave the state but, for millions of reasons, that’s either impossible or impractical. 

    To hear you guys tell it, everyone in the state is the antiChrist and it’s getting damned tiring. 

    Capisce??
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    BKDogBKDog Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I can say is that if Schwarzenegger runs in 2020 it would mean Alex Jones was right all these years and that would give me heartburn. The last time a nation placed an Austrian in charge he invaded Poland and started a World War and then fought a war on so many fronts, he became the king of all idiots.
    And California is a beautiful country with plenty of wonderful Citizens; I wish it were more like America all the time.
    "Love is a dung heap, Betty and I am but a c.o.c.k. that climbs upon it to crow."
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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The problem with California is that there are waaaay more liberal douchebags than conservatives.  You will never take your state back.  California needs its own Electoral College for governor and senators but the scum in charge wouldn't vote to slit their own throats.  I was born in socal and haven't felt like I was home since I left (except when i lived in Wyoming).   Im currently living in a communist state now but its (a little bit) better than CA.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in calalafornia that don't have green hair under their aluminum hats. BUT they are far outnumbered by the "people" that do. As long as they vote into office such absurd and ridiculous people the wall should go all the way north. 


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    jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae said:
    There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in calalafornia that don't have green hair under their aluminum hats. BUT they are far outnumbered by the "people" that do. As long as they vote into office such absurd and ridiculous people the wall should o all the way north. 
    And so you should continue to vilify all of us? Why not pick on some other state for a while? Just for the sake of variety, if nothing else. 

    How about Iowa? Or North Dakota?  For no particular reason. Someplace we haven’t heard you pick on in the last year or two like you do California...

    Your needle is just stuck in a groove and the monotony really sucks. Are you getting the message, here??


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    peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 15,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to get my needle stuck in a groove...  how does one go about that?


     I don't doubt that California is like most states; there are several large urban areas that set policy and run their own cities and the state govt. with the rest of the state belonging to reasonable and sound-minded citizens.  Madison is the WI state capitol, we call is Madistan 'cuz it's run by commies.  Based on what I know of the attempts to split CA into smaller states there are plenty of regions where they want nothing to do with the elite ruling class.
    "I could've had a Mi Querida!"   Nick Bardis
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    StubbleStubble Posts: 8,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae said:
    There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in calalafornia that don't have green hair under their aluminum hats. BUT they are far outnumbered by the "people" that do. As long as they vote into office such absurd and ridiculous people the wall should go all the way north. 



    Hey, you gonna eat the rest of that corndog?
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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't get me wrong, NY, NJ, &IL also suck, politically.  It just that California insists on being first to implement the dumbest of sh*t.  They take pride in anti-American dumbfuckery.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ShawnOL said:
    Don't get me wrong, NY, NJ, &IL also suck, politically.  It just that California insists on being first to implement the dumbest of sh*t.  They take pride in anti-American dumbfuckery.

    And all that garbage is promoted by calalafornian "leadership" in the congress. It is far from being a dead horse.
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    IndustMechIndustMech Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know, You're a big dog and I'm on the list.
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    CalvinAndHoboCalvinAndHobo Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ShawnOL said:
    Don't get me wrong, NY, NJ, &IL also suck, politically.  It just that California insists on being first to implement the dumbest of sh*t.  They take pride in anti-American dumbfuckery.
    Just for the record, this is factually incorrect. Washington state is usually the first state to implement the dumb stuff, then California takes the ideas and promotes them so that you hear about them. You know, if the concern is about the actual policy. 
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    Sleddog46Sleddog46 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well NJ sucks big time. I live here and we pay the highest taxes, insurance and anything else these crooks in office decide to throw at us. That's why we are moving to out.
    You can't dispel Ignorance if you retain Arrogance!
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    Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jlmarta said:
    Hey, hey, wait a minute!  I know California is considered a ‘liberal’ state but I think you guys are forgetting that there’s still a helluva bunch of us conservatives who still live here. Cut us a little slack, okay?

    Sure, a lot of us would like to leave the state but, for millions of reasons, that’s either impossible or impractical. 

    To hear you guys tell it, everyone in the state is the antiChrist and it’s getting damned tiring. 

    Capisce??
    I sometimes feel this way when I get tired of the bashing of "Liberals".  I learned what "Liberalism" was, at an early age.  I always thought of myself as a "Liberal" because of the ideas that they brought.  For instance:

    The proposition that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  100% Liberal in origin

    The idea that a citizen has a right, even an obligation to criticize their leaders when the leaders are wrong or immoral, and that the citizen should not fear retribution for their speech.  100% Liberal, conservatives were of the mind that the king had a divine right and that the kings actions were beyond reproach.

    That an individual has the right to possess weapons with which to defend his (or her) property and self from assault or harm.  100% Liberal, conservatives feared an uprising that would upset the balance of power and money.

    That an individual had a right to religious opinions, and did not have to become a member of a state affiliated church, or pay taxes to that church.  100% Liberal

    What other horrors has "Liberal" thinking imposed? 

    Let's see,

    women have rights apart from their husbands rule, and are allowed to vote, own property, seek employment and be paid fairly for it

    same goes for people of color

    fair housing standards

    employers cannot insist that workers work extra hours for free, or for the same wage paid for the first reasonable weeks work but must provide extra compensation.

    That the government should be held accountable to the governed

    My God!  It's just awful what these "Liberals" have done!  Absolutely none of the ideas above were proposed or condoned by the "Conservatives" of their day.

    WTF happened?  And how can Authoritarian Socialists like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi co-opt the good name of "Liberalism"?  

    Beats me.


    WARNING:  The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme.  Proceed at your own risk.  

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
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    ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WTF happened?  And how can Authoritarian Socialists like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi co-opt the good name of "Liberalism"?  

    Beats me.


    The far left coopted the term many decades ago.  A liberal dose of taxing, a liberal dose of welfare, repeat. I think that's why the term "libertarian" came about.  Consider myself a libertarian.  Libertarians are good for America.  Liberals suck.  What was once good has been coopted and corrupted by the radical leftists.

    Trapped in the People's Communits Republic of Massachusetts.

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    jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Born and raised in a democratic/liberal home. My father must be spinning in his grave.
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    Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jlmarta said:
    Hey, hey, wait a minute!  I know California is considered a ‘liberal’ state but I think you guys are forgetting that there’s still a helluva bunch of us conservatives who still live here. Cut us a little slack, okay?

    Sure, a lot of us would like to leave the state but, for millions of reasons, that’s either impossible or impractical. 

    To hear you guys tell it, everyone in the state is the antiChrist and it’s getting damned tiring. 

    Capisce??
    Dont worry there are escape hatches through the wall for you good guys
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
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    jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Diver43 said:
    jlmarta said:
    Hey, hey, wait a minute!  I know California is considered a ‘liberal’ state but I think you guys are forgetting that there’s still a helluva bunch of us conservatives who still live here. Cut us a little slack, okay?

    Sure, a lot of us would like to leave the state but, for millions of reasons, that’s either impossible or impractical. 

    To hear you guys tell it, everyone in the state is the antiChrist and it’s getting damned tiring. 

    Capisce??
    Dont worry there are escape hatches through the wall for you good guys
    Really?  ‘Splain, please. 🤓
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    Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ShawnOL said:

    WTF happened?  And how can Authoritarian Socialists like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi co-opt the good name of "Liberalism"?  

    Beats me.


    The far left coopted the term many decades ago.  A liberal dose of taxing, a liberal dose of welfare, repeat. I think that's why the term "libertarian" came about.  Consider myself a libertarian.  Libertarians are good for America.  Liberals suck.  What was once good has been coopted and corrupted by the radical leftists.
    I hear you, @ShawnOL, according to David Boaz' Libertarianism primer, I fall pretty well into the "Classical Liberal" category, which means that today's Libertarianism is what most closely fits my views.  I haven't voted for a mainstream Presidential candidate since Bill Clinton's first run.  I was convinced that he was Classical Liberal, like myself, inclined toward social libertarianism and fiscal responsibility.  I was half right, if you change libertarianism to libertine-ism. 

    I went for Ross Perot, then Ron Paul, then whoever the libertarians were running.  My friends on the left tell me "a vote for Bob Barr is just like a vote for Donald Trump", and my other friends insist that "a vote for Bob Barr is just voting for Hillary Clinton".  I disagree.  I think I was voting for Bob Barr.  I couldn't quite bring myself to vote for The Donald, and I damn sure didn't want Hillary.  If the Republicans would have run Kasich (sp?) they'd have had one more vote, from me.

    I remain registered as a Republican, because the Tennessee local elections are pretty much decided in the primaries.  Also because in the Libertarian Party's efforts to stay alive they tend to embrace any number of lunatic fringe anarchists who don't seem to grasp that government is a necessary evil.  Social justice is not necessarily tied to Social-ism.  At least, not in my view.

    In the long run, I suppose that I just hate that the language was changed so.  The word "Liberal" has become synonymous with "Socialist", as well as bordering on Hate-Speech in some circles. 

    It seems a shame.  
    WARNING:  The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme.  Proceed at your own risk.  

    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
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    Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jlmarta said:
    Diver43 said:
    jlmarta said:
    Hey, hey, wait a minute!  I know California is considered a ‘liberal’ state but I think you guys are forgetting that there’s still a helluva bunch of us conservatives who still live here. Cut us a little slack, okay?

    Sure, a lot of us would like to leave the state but, for millions of reasons, that’s either impossible or impractical. 

    To hear you guys tell it, everyone in the state is the antiChrist and it’s getting damned tiring. 

    Capisce??
    Dont worry there are escape hatches through the wall for you good guys
    Really?  ‘Splain, please. 🤓
    Will have to tell you over an adult beverage and cigar. Its Classified, cant post it here
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
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