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  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The media tells us that secret Federal police are indiscriminately arresting people off the streets of Portland.
    LIES and made up stories. Federal Agents are arresting identified criminals

    https://youtu.be/2AJJsnmtM9k

    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • YankeeManYankeeMan Posts: 2,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's the ways you stop rumors and lies, with the truth! May God bless your people and stay safe. There are people in this country who care.

  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The body cam footage is finally out.

    https://youtu.be/YPSwqp5fdIw

    Does this prove what you have been told happened?

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • TX98Z28TX98Z28 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @webmost said:
    The body cam footage is finally out.

    https://youtu.be/YPSwqp5fdIw

    Does this prove what you have been told happened?

    Yep just as I thought he was already over dosing on the intoxicating amount of fentanyl and methamphetamine combo found in his system. The meth explains the erratic behavior, and the fentanyl suppressing the respiratory system before he was put on the ground. "I can't breath" before he was kneeled on by the officer. He was so high he couldn't even tell the officers "I'm on drugs, I think I'm overdosing and need medical assistance" but I didn't hear if they asked him or not if he was on drugs or needed medical assistance.

    Speedball...never a good combo or outcome.

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  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Prediction: A year or two hence, a jury will take one look at this and say "No way we can convict this officer"... then the riots will start all over again.

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 9,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If someone can't breathe, can they usually clearly say I can't breathe?

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShawnOL said:
    If someone can't breathe, can they usually clearly say I can't breathe?

    People having panic attacks routinely scream "I can't breathe!" loudly. In those cases, they've hyperventilated off too much carbon dioxide and the little group of cells that senses rise in CO2 and "tells" you to breathe stops telling them to breathe. The subjective conscious mind perceives this as an inability to breathe, hence the panic. Having them breathe in and out from a paper bag restores the CO2 level, and the panic ceases.

    I don't think the knee to the neck approach would be therapeutic.

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  • TX98Z28TX98Z28 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @webmost said:
    Prediction: A year or two hence, a jury will take one look at this and say "No way we can convict this officer"... then the riots will start all over again.

    With this body cam video the most Officer Chavin could see is excessive force for kneeling on his neck. His legal defense team is going to tear into the toxicology report and this video isn't helping the Prosecuting team any.

    All of this could have been avoided if George would have just followed the officers lawful orders...he clearly doesn't have a fvcking clue how to act or behave while being pulled over and probably would be alive today if he did. Again we know he was intoxicated on drugs during the time of his death so he could very well have been having complications from them, not just the knee to the neck.

    Step 1. Obey all Lawful orders from a Law Enforcement Officer while being pulled over
    Step 2. Pull over, turn on hazard lights, turn vehicle off (can leave on though if hot)
    Step 3. Have your Drivers License and Proof of financial responsibility ready
    Step 4. Roll down the window
    Step 5. Put both hands on the steering wheel and wait for the Officer to come to the window or tell you what to do for his/her or everyones safety. I'd prefer to actually be out of the vehicle away from the road if pulled over on a major highway etc.

    Where did I get the steps for being pulled over from? A Retired Police Chief of Houston and the only step George followed was pulling if he wasn't already, after that...

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  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amos, you lied thru your teeth. No way you hit a ton on a Hardley Ableson in 1991.

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020

    @webmost said:
    Amos, you lied thru your teeth. No way you hit a ton on a Hardley Ableson in 1991.

    FXR, Andrews Cams, Screamin' Eagle Carb, K&N filter, Jacobs ignition, Supertrapp tuned exhaust, laid down behind the fly-screen. Mighta been going downhill just a little, too.

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  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @webmost said:

    What a great term.
    Mostly peaceful.
    I wish I would have known that term in my younger years.
    Yes officer, it was a fight, but it was mostly peaceful.

    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020

    So, I'm told that somewhere some thug (black) shot a 5 year old (black) riding his bicycle. Shot him in the head while he was playing.

    BLM, Where's the outrage?

    BLM, Where are the protesters?

    BLM, Where's his gold casket?

    BLM, Where's his 4 funerals?

    BLM, Are you only concerned about people with known criminal history?

    BLM, Where are all the Congress Critters?

    BLM, Where are all the Hollywood Stars?

    BLM, That kid never held a pregnant woman hostage at gunpoint, not worth your time or attention?

    BLM, What's wrong? No Fentanyl or Methamphetamine in the 5 year old's system?

    WTF? I guess 5 year old Black Lives just don't matter, to BLM.

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  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020

    @Amos_Umwhat
    It proves the political agenda of that group.
    It isn't about the life taken, it is what they can politically use as propaganda.

    BLM, the corporation, only has a political agenda. That's it. Nothing more.
    One only needs to research it to understand where the money comes from and where it goes.

    This country has allowed a hate group to fundamentally ruin it. People now think killing is ok. They are posting on social media that the wrong Trump died, with total disrespect that a man died.

    It makes me sick.

    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    So, I'm told that somewhere some thug (black) shot a 5 year old (black) riding his bicycle. Shot him in the head while he was playing.

    BLM, Where's the outrage?

    BLM, Where are the protesters?

    BLM, Where's his gold casket?

    BLM, Where's his 4 funerals?

    BLM, Are you only concerned about people with known criminal history?

    BLM, Where are all the Congress Critters?

    BLM, Where are all the Hollywood Stars?

    BLM, That kid never held a pregnant woman hostage at gunpoint, not worth your time or attention?

    BLM, What's wrong? No Fentanyl or Methamphetamine in the 5 year old's system?

    WTF? I guess 5 year old Black Lives just don't matter, to BLM.

    If the boy had been black and the shooter white, there would be more riots across the country. These **** should be OBLM Only Black Lives Matter

    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • TX98Z28TX98Z28 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020
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  • 0patience0patience Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was about 10 blocks from the hospital I was at.
    Just makes a person feel all safe
    I can't imagine why anyone would want to carry a gun. :s

    In Fumo Pax
    Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.

    Wylaff said:
    Atmospheric pressure and crap.
  • TX98Z28TX98Z28 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @0patience said:

    That was about 10 blocks from the hospital I was at.
    Just makes a person feel all safe
    I can't imagine why anyone would want to carry a gun. :s

    It's only a matter of time before someone or a small group gets fed up and completely loses it in Portland etc. A major mass shooting the result, were talking 100+ dead. It's no different than school shooting's etc, one or a group loses it and kills a bunch of people, and I'm not talking about BLM anarchists losing it... they already clearly have lost it.

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  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • ShawnOLShawnOL Posts: 9,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020

    Been wondering if the good people of Portland and surrounding areas will finally get fed up with the BS and just go in and start shooting the antifa and BLM criminals. Kinda surprised it hasn't happened already. If the government won't ..........

    Trapped in the People's Communist Republic of Massachusetts.

  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That last one that kicked him in the head needs to be beat half to death and put away, or the alternative that i first thought of. I felt ill after watching that.
    That just came on FOX news as I type this.

    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • RhamlinRhamlin Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    So, I'm told that somewhere some thug (black) shot a 5 year old (black) riding his bicycle. Shot him in the head while he was playing.

    BLM, Where's the outrage?

    BLM, Where are the protesters?

    BLM, Where's his gold casket?

    BLM, Where's his 4 funerals?

    BLM, Are you only concerned about people with known criminal history?

    BLM, Where are all the Congress Critters?

    BLM, Where are all the Hollywood Stars?

    BLM, That kid never held a pregnant woman hostage at gunpoint, not worth your time or attention?

    BLM, What's wrong? No Fentanyl or Methamphetamine in the 5 year old's system?

    WTF? I guess 5 year old Black Lives just don't matter, to BLM.

    The 5 year old was white. The shooter was the neighbor.

  • TBonzTBonz Posts: 554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was told it occurred in the city where I normally work when we aren't all working at home. I have no idea how close it was to where I work. Only that it was the same city.

  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rhamlin said:

    @Amos_Umwhat said:
    So, I'm told that somewhere some thug (black) shot a 5 year old (black) riding his bicycle. Shot him in the head while he was playing.

    BLM, Where's the outrage?

    BLM, Where are the protesters?

    BLM, Where's his gold casket?

    BLM, Where's his 4 funerals?

    BLM, Are you only concerned about people with known criminal history?

    BLM, Where are all the Congress Critters?

    BLM, Where are all the Hollywood Stars?

    BLM, That kid never held a pregnant woman hostage at gunpoint, not worth your time or attention?

    BLM, What's wrong? No Fentanyl or Methamphetamine in the 5 year old's system?

    WTF? I guess 5 year old Black Lives just don't matter, to BLM.

    The 5 year old was white. The shooter was the neighbor.

    I may have been misinformed. Word of mouth isn't always reliable. I'm equally pissed off about a white 5 year old being shot, but I believe in racial equality. 5 = 5 to me. Not intended as a question of your beliefs, Ricky. Just saying how I feel.

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    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
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