I'm well aware of my own family history, as well. One of my great-grandparents was a Spanish Moor, one of my grandmas was Mulatta (Puerto Rico, slave triangle anyone?). Most anything a non-white has done to a white, was done by a white first. I neither excuse, nor pardon that. But I will give you an example.
Scalping was a white-man's invention. Bounties were paod on dead natives and scalps were proof of a kill.
You are correct about the scalping. But............ As an american indian (native american for those who insist on being politically correct), why should I hold any present/modern day white for the atrocities of my people?
That's holding a grudge waaaaay too long. And what purpose does it serve? Nothing at all, except to further stoke the furnace of hate.
"A grandfather is talking with his grandson and he says there are two wolves inside of us which are always at war with each other.
One of them is a good wolf which represents things like peace and love. The other is a bad wolf, which represents hatred.
The grandson stops and thinks about it for a second then he looks up at his grandfather and says, “Grandfather, which one wins?”
The grandfather quietly replies, the one you feed."
Give that some consideration.
In Fumo Pax Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form." -- Winston Churchill "LET'S GO FRANCIS" Peter
All the "minorities" got a problem with America? Ok...go the fuckkkk back if life is so great in the third world country your great great great great great grandaddy came from against his will. Problem solved
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“Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman – or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle.” – George Burns
You know what I just realised? Can't any of You kick me out. I'm sure you'll find some chickenshit way to, but 'til then, I'ma stick around. You know where I stand and I know whom not to bother with. I'll leave it at that.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado! -General Zapata
It's best to get your buzz goin before posting. That way you don't take things too seriously
“Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman – or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle.” – George Burns
I'm well aware of my own family history, as well. One of my great-grandparents was a Spanish Moor, one of my grandmas was Mulatta (Puerto Rico, slave triangle anyone?). Most anything a non-white has done to a white, was done by a white first. I neither excuse, nor pardon that. But I will give you an example.
Scalping was a white-man's invention. Bounties were paod on dead natives and scalps were proof of a kill.
Okay, let's start there, you are wrong on LITERALLY every front. Slavery, Genocide, Racism, Scalping, not a single one can be traced back to "the white man" as the first to do it. But by all means, I'm sure your opinion is worth more than any fact that can actually be proven.
I don't get where you come off saying that I hate white people. If I said something that can be constryed in that manner, point it out and I'll apologize.
My point is that white people seem to have the specific problem of not acknowledging how they've treated Blacks, Browns, Reds, Yellows. You yourselves are trying to Justify it instead of admitting it was Wrong. Those black kids that beat you are a result of the problem, not the problem itself.
And we've already discussed the sordid history of slavery.
Like it or not, you are stereotyping white people just the way you hate when whites stereotype people of color.
I'm an old white male who teaches college in an inner city area in a poor county. Most of my students are minority, single parents and the first person in their family to graduate high school and attend college.
I will do anything to help my students succeed. The more education they have, the more career choices they will have. Their skin color makes no difference to me, just their thirst for knowledge and their hope to give their kids a better life than they had.
By the way, as old as I am, I have never owned slaves, nor have any of my children. That was about 100 years before I was born!
You know what I just realised? Can't any of You kick me out. I'm sure you'll find some chickenshit way to, but 'til then, I'ma stick around. You know where I stand and I know whom not to bother with. I'll leave it at that.
I think that's good. This communities strength lies in its diversity. We have all kinds of folks here, black, brown, yellow, red, and white. We have all kinds of careers, soldiers, cops, nurses, doctors, mechanics, the list goes on and on. And our strength is our tolerance for the differences between us. Perhaps you'll learn it, as well.
WARNING: The above post may contain thoughts or ideas known to the State of Caliphornia to cause seething rage, confusion, distemper, nausea, perspiration, sphincter release, or cranial implosion to persons who implicitly trust only one news source, or find themselves at either the left or right political extreme. Proceed at your own risk.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
Actually, if you ask American Indians, whites started scalping and they did it as retaliation for their people being scalped by the white man. If you ask whites, then that is reversed.
“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)
So, anyone who is not White or Straight, is Wrong?
To everyone else on the forum, I want to say "I'm sorry" in advance for asking this question (I feel like I'm poking a maggot filled carcass of a dead 'possum with a stick,) but,
Hey @ElJimbo,... WTF are you talking about? Just for the record the answer is "No, stupid". But, just for fun,... Can you justify that ridiculous rhetorical question? What "triggered" that? The super hero comics? I didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was wrong or right. I don't believe anybody here did, but you seem to have a desperate need to believe some of us here on this little forum are evil, wicked, mean and nasty in order for you to enjoy your verbal target practice.
Alex Wubbels refused to give the blood of an injured patient to a cop, so the cop decided to arrest her. The patient was unconscious, could not give consent, and the cops had no probable cause or warrant to get his blood. The patient he was the victim of a car accident, he was not the cause of it (the other driver was killed). Detective Jeff Payne then decided to arrest Nurse Wubbels. We need more people like Nurse Wubbels in the world. And less like Detective Jeff Payne.
You know what I just realised? Can't any of You kick me out. I'm sure you'll find some chickenshit way to, but 'til then, I'ma stick around. You know where I stand and I know whom not to bother with. I'll leave it at that.
I don't want to pour gas on a fire, but I do have questions. Do you smoke cigars? Have you done a cigar trade or bomb a member? You found an unmoderated forum to voice your opinions, and it seems there are very few of them that relate to cigars and pipes.
Friends don't let good friends smoke cheap cigars.
So, anyone who is not White or Straight, is Wrong?
To everyone else on the forum, I want to say "I'm sorry" in advance for asking this question (I feel like I'm poking a maggot filled carcass of a dead 'possum with a stick,) but,
Hey @ElJimbo,... WTF are you talking about? Just for the record the answer is "No, stupid". But, just for fun,... Can you justify that ridiculous rhetorical question? What "triggered" that? The super hero comics? I didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was wrong or right. I don't believe anybody here did, but you seem to have a desperate need to believe some of us here on this little forum are evil, wicked, mean and nasty in order for you to enjoy your verbal target practice.
I've not used any of you for "verbal target paractice", and yes there are "evil, wicked, mean and nasty" people on this Forum. I've pointed that out when asked, but have not received that same courtesy when I ask. I will apologize for the scalping post, I was wrong.
Every post I've made has had substantiating support to go with it. None of the attacks on me have. Whether you care to admit it or not, Rascism is Rooted in the past.
The United States is not the greatest country in the world (also backed up), though it could be, I would love to see it so. One of the Reasons it isn't, is Institutionalized Rascism. Sweeping it under the rug, Ignoring it will change nothimg.
That being said, there's no Reason to call me "Stupid". If you "didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was Right or Wrong", then there's no Need for that. As far as why I asked, I direct you to the "evil, wicked, mean and nasty people" that have set that precedent.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado! -General Zapata
You know what I just realised? Can't any of You kick me out. I'm sure you'll find some chickenshit way to, but 'til then, I'ma stick around. You know where I stand and I know whom not to bother with. I'll leave it at that.
I don't want to pour gas on a fire, but I do have questions. Do you smoke cigars? Have you done a cigar trade or bomb a member? You found an unmoderated forum to voice your opinions, and it seems there are very few of them that relate to cigars and pipes.
Yes I do smoke cigars (and pipes) and have made posts to that effect. 'Scuse me for speaking my mind.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado! -General Zapata
All the "minorities" got a problem with America? Ok...go the fuckkkk back if life is so great in the third world country your great great great great great grandaddy came from against his will. Problem solved
So, anyone who is not White or Straight, is Wrong?
To everyone else on the forum, I want to say "I'm sorry" in advance for asking this question (I feel like I'm poking a maggot filled carcass of a dead 'possum with a stick,) but,
Hey @ElJimbo,... WTF are you talking about? Just for the record the answer is "No, stupid". But, just for fun,... Can you justify that ridiculous rhetorical question? What "triggered" that? The super hero comics? I didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was wrong or right. I don't believe anybody here did, but you seem to have a desperate need to believe some of us here on this little forum are evil, wicked, mean and nasty in order for you to enjoy your verbal target practice.
I've not used any of you for "verbal target paractice", and yes there are "evil, wicked, mean and nasty" people on this Forum. I've pointed that out when asked, but have not received that same courtesy when I ask. I will apologize for the scalping post, I was wrong.
Every post I've made has had substantiating support to go with it. None of the attacks on me have. Whether you care to admit it or not, Rascism is Rooted in the past.
The United States is not the greatest country in the world (also backed up), though it could be, I would love to see it so. One of the Reasons it isn't, is Institutionalized Rascism. Sweeping it under the rug, Ignoring it will change nothimg.
That being said, there's no Reason to call me "Stupid". If you "didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was Right or Wrong", then there's no Need for that. As far as why I asked, I direct you to the "evil, wicked, mean and nasty people" that have set that precedent.
Back to my point which you failed to address. I assumed you were replying to the super hero comics I, and one other guy posted. I assumed it was stupid for you to take it to the following conclusion. ------> ElJimbo said: So, anyone who is not White or Straight, is Wrong?
It's the only thing I asked you about. Who, on this forum, said anyone who isn't white or straight, is wrong? That would be wrong of them if they did but, I don't think anybody said it or implied it. Go ahead. Support and substantiate your post. I have an open mind. Prove my assumptions wrong and I'll think about not calling you stupid.
Please just consider the singular subject I asked you about. Your post.
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But............
As an american indian (native american for those who insist on being politically correct), why should I hold any present/modern day white for the atrocities of my people?
That's holding a grudge waaaaay too long.
And what purpose does it serve? Nothing at all, except to further stoke the furnace of hate.
"A grandfather is talking with his grandson and he says there are two wolves inside of us which are always at war with each other.
Give that some consideration.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/united-states
-- Winston Churchill
"LET'S GO FRANCIS" Peter
We're supposed to be civil, so have a cigar and relax.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
Okay, let's start there, you are wrong on LITERALLY every front. Slavery, Genocide, Racism, Scalping, not a single one can be traced back to "the white man" as the first to do it. But by all means, I'm sure your opinion is worth more than any fact that can actually be proven.
I'm an old white male who teaches college in an inner city area in a poor county. Most of my students are minority, single parents and the first person in their family to graduate high school and attend college.
I will do anything to help my students succeed. The more education they have, the more career choices they will have. Their skin color makes no difference to me, just their thirst for knowledge and their hope to give their kids a better life than they had.
By the way, as old as I am, I have never owned slaves, nor have any of my children. That was about 100 years before I was born!
I think that's good. This communities strength lies in its diversity. We have all kinds of folks here, black, brown, yellow, red, and white. We have all kinds of careers, soldiers, cops, nurses, doctors, mechanics, the list goes on and on. And our strength is our tolerance for the differences between us. Perhaps you'll learn it, as well.
"If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." -- Mark Twain
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If you ask whites, then that is reversed.
http://www.manataka.org/page1438.html
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cigars and that's close enough.
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At any given time the urge to sing "In The Jungle" is just a whim away... A whim away... A whim away...
Hey @ElJimbo,... WTF are you talking about? Just for the record the answer is "No, stupid". But, just for fun,... Can you justify that ridiculous rhetorical question? What "triggered" that? The super hero comics? I didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was wrong or right. I don't believe anybody here did, but you seem to have a desperate need to believe some of us here on this little forum are evil, wicked, mean and nasty in order for you to enjoy your verbal target practice.
Yes siree....got them heads so far up the plumbing that important stuff ain't.
Have they even mentioned comey's whitewashing of the hillary investigation before it was even finished?
Have they even mentioned pelosi's culpability in the antifa violence or the fact that she now says it has to stop?
Nurse refuses to violate a patient's Constitutional right, gets arrested.
Do you smoke cigars?
Have you done a cigar trade or bomb a member?
You found an unmoderated forum to voice your opinions, and it seems there are very few of them that relate to cigars and pipes.
Every post I've made has had substantiating support to go with it. None of the attacks on me have. Whether you care to admit it or not, Rascism is Rooted in the past.
The United States is not the greatest country in the world (also backed up), though it could be, I would love to see it so. One of the Reasons it isn't, is Institutionalized Rascism. Sweeping it under the rug, Ignoring it will change nothimg.
That being said, there's no Reason to call me "Stupid". If you "didn't say or mean to imply that anybody was Right or Wrong", then there's no Need for that. As far as why I asked, I direct you to the "evil, wicked, mean and nasty people" that have set that precedent.
So, anyone who is not White or Straight, is Wrong?
It's the only thing I asked you about. Who, on this forum, said anyone who isn't white or straight, is wrong? That would be wrong of them if they did but, I don't think anybody said it or implied it. Go ahead. Support and substantiate your post. I have an open mind. Prove my assumptions wrong and I'll think about not calling you stupid.
Please just consider the singular subject I asked you about. Your post.