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ChemnitzChemnitz Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭
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Looks like June 2015 is when we'll know what is the fallout. Cigar Coop article here

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    Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regulations released today
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

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    Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FDA chose option 1. Not good
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

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    Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://halfwheel.com/fda-chooses-option-1-will-regulate-premium-cigars/113855
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    miller65rodmiller65rod Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So with todays decision I understand most of it. In reality how does this effect prices and online options? 
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    PatrickbrickPatrickbrick Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be appealed and delayed for sure.  Plus the fda will be getting sued.
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    Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    miller65rod said:
    So with todays decision I understand most of it. In reality how does this effect prices and online options? 
    Well premium cigars will be those at 10 bucks or higher. Cigars pre 2007 exempt. I am sure we will be seeing prices increase. Also no more handouts at events. 
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

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    kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have I ever told yall I hate the government? 
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    jgibvjgibv Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the Halfwheel article:
    Last month, the House Appropriations Committee on Agriculture passed language that would include an exemption for premium cigars.......

    provisions will be included in the agriculture bill whenever it is voted on, but, that is not expected to happen until after Aug. 8.
    I will be **extremely surprised** if the agriculture bill does not pass.
    I'm very optimistic that the bill passes and the exemption goes through.


    But the FDA will just try again next year......

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    jsnakejsnake Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The FDA and BHO can suck a big fat ****. 
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    Big''nBall''nBig''nBall''n Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
    Sad Day :( 
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    webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amos_Umwhat said:
    Anyone ever wonder why it is that all the significant laws seem to be passed by "administrations", rather than Congress?  FDA, EPA,  BATF, etc.?  It's never the people we send to Washington, it's people they hire that do all the work.  And they don't work for us, they work for whoever has the deepest pockets, or whoever is producing the most panic or hate within the culture at the moment. 

    It's VERY popular to hate tobacco right now.  Our "leaders" lurch from one hate-mongered project to the next without any clear purpose other than to foster subservience, power for themselves, and more hate, because that makes us so easy to control.

    And we fall for it. 

    Every time.




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    jarublajarubla Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amos_Umwhat said:
    Anyone ever wonder why it is that all the significant laws seem to be passed by "administrations", rather than Congress?  FDA, EPA,  BATF, etc.?  It's never the people we send to Washington, it's people they hire that do all the work.  And they don't work for us, they work for whoever has the deepest pockets, or whoever is producing the most panic or hate within the culture at the moment. 

    It's VERY popular to hate tobacco right now.  Our "leaders" lurch from one hate-mongered project to the next without any clear purpose other than to foster subservience, power for themselves, and more hate, because that makes us so easy to control.

    And we fall for it. 

    Every time.


    You forgot to throw a 'we gotta protects teh children!' In there. Seems like they always play that card
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    peter4jcpeter4jc Posts: 15,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amos_Umwhat said:
    Anyone ever wonder why it is that all the significant laws seem to be passed by "administrations", rather than Congress?  FDA, EPA,  BATF, etc.?  It's never the people we send to Washington, it's people they hire that do all the work.  And they don't work for us, they work for whoever has the deepest pockets, or whoever is producing the most panic or hate within the culture at the moment. 

    This article covers the hidden tax that these regulations truly are.  It's a short, but interesting depressing read.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/04/economy-hit-with-hidden-1-9-trillion-tax-from-federal-regulations/
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    kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Brad @avengethis, more I look the more I think I have but 3 options. Start drinking again (should say funneling), start smoking meth or find the nearest cliff or bridge.  :s
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    Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭✭
    I think I'd love to throat punch the fda! There are so many things they overlook but I'm sure they get paid off. Well us idiots seem to be at the bottom and I'm hoping the companies come together and pay as well! Honestly my thoughts are its because of the embargo lifting. I'm sure they want to regulate all the cc's that will flood the market. It could be a good thing for cc's in terms of quality control but it really hurts the feast of the high quality coming out of everywhere else
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    kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When they run out of things to regulate and tax you won't be able to find a toilet without 1 of these attached to it with a mechanical lid. You know they all about creating jobs. Just think of all the government workers they will need to go business to business and house to house to collect.
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    kswildcatkswildcat Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    jgibv said:
    From the Halfwheel article:
    Last month, the House Appropriations Committee on Agriculture passed language that would include an exemption for premium cigars.......

    provisions will be included in the agriculture bill whenever it is voted on, but, that is not expected to happen until after Aug. 8.
    I will be **extremely surprised** if the agriculture bill does not pass.
    I'm very optimistic that the bill passes and the exemption goes through.


    But the FDA will just try again next year......
    If your talking farm bill 100% agree. That bill is like 100% guaranteed to pass. A lot of pork is attached to farm bill, Alot of entitlements that have nothing to do with farming. Not quite sure why the call it the farm bill.
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    Usaf06Usaf06 Posts: 10,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you want a your voice to be heard click the link. It's simple and sends an automated email to your senators and representatives. It's easy. http://capwiz.com/cigarrights/issues/alert/?alertid=62606471
    "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
    -- Winston Churchill

    "LET'S GO FRANCIS"     Peter

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    silvermousesilvermouse Posts: 19,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the link. Sent and shared on a couple of pipe forums that have cigar threads.
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    WaterNerdWaterNerd Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :) Usaf06 said:
    If you want a your voice to be heard click the link. It's simple and sends an automated email to your senators and representatives. It's easy. http://capwiz.com/cigarrights/issues/alert/?alertid=62606471
    Thank you! Just filled it out 
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    dirtdudedirtdude Posts: 5,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice link @Usaf06 , thanks Nick
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    YaksterYakster Posts: 25,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    Done filled out that link you posted to send emails to my senator and representatives :  http://capwiz.com/cigarrights/issues/alert/?alertid=62606471
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    PatrickbrickPatrickbrick Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First lawsuit against the fda filed by a cigar manufacturer, thank you Global Premium Cigars!  I hope more follow, plus I think they have a sound argument.
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    WylaffWylaff Posts: 5,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://halfwheel.com/global-premium-cigars-files-lawsuit-against-fda/116833
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